Mr new guy needs advice

[Gash1888]

Hi folks, looking for some advice. I have 16th edition BS7671:2001 which I sat in 2004, I have been working as a maintenance electrician on a large industrial plant ever since, I am now 30 and thinking of starting my own business as a sole trader electrician, domestic and commercial, 1st I know that 17th edition is required and I am looking for available courses at present but in the meantime what domestic electrical work can I carry out, if any?
2nd for inspection and testing is this covered within 17th edition or is it a separate certificate?
3rd would be looking to incorporate renewables instalations into my work, any courses worth doing that people could recommend?

Any help appreciated guys thanks in advance

 

[Wiredspark]

I think I must have wasted 39 year and 150+ odd days of my life .................I could have done other things and then took a 17 day course and be competent................. all that BS I was fed as a young 16 yr old eh, 5 yr apprentice, 4 more years at night school for HNC and HND and then course after course for updating things ...............thousands of pounds spent, years wasted, and it could all be done in 17 days..............

I wonder if the barrel as finally had it's bottom scraped yet, or can we condense it into an afternoon in the local cafe and a few lads who know a bit

There must be an online faq you can read, that should do.

 

[Knobhead]

Just had a look at their three phase course. Oh dear………

 

[Gash1888]

Ok guys thanks for the replies, NICEIC wants 17th edition accrediting which is fine because this is in the pipeline anyway, as for work just now I live in Scotland and I think the part p is not applicable, however there is an equivalent which I would need to cover? LBC seems a bit pointless and timewaisting, I think I will wait unintil I am registered with NICEIC and have the 17th edition.

Thanks for the advice on solar PV courses also I like the look of trade skill 4 u.

Just for clarification, I have been in the electrical trade since 18, so for 12 year, namely industrial work, however the transition to domestic / commercial work should be manageable. I am not one for underestimating things and know it won't just be a walk in the park, but think realistically 6 month of study and training (17th ed, solar PV install, inspec & test) should set me in good stead. Thoughts?

 

[Gash1888]

How did you guess! Lol:clap:

 

[malcolmsanford]

This is an in house course and as such there are no formal entry requirements. However you should have experience of single phase installations, including the requirements for inspection and testing in order to complete this advanced course.

This course is ideal for existing domestic installers and also anyone contemplating doing the City & Guilds 2391, 2394, or 2395 qualifications or have little experience of three phase systems.


So in 18 days you can be let loose on a 100amp per phase industrial installation and be competent ..................

You know I'm going to have to leave this thread as I'm likely to get banned for what I really feel about these people ........................

 

[Wiredspark]

How did you guess! Lol:clap:

Can smell yeez a mile away

Just joking,

on a side note SOLAR PV???? becareful not to invest any monies into this that you are not entirely sure you will be able to recover Gash. This is a very unstable market at the moment and is not likely to be stable for a wee while yet.

 

[Knobhead]

You know I'm going to have to leave this thread as I'm likely to get banned for what I really feel about these people ........................

Yes be careful, they do sponsor this site.

On that note I’m keeping quiet.

 

[Gash1888]

Yeah I've done some research and noticed how the goverment are constantly cutting the FIT and the amount of years the FIT is available is being considered for a cut also (25 down to 20) however the price of installations and kit should also reduce making it more affordable, whether or not the uk has the mindset and inclination to "go green" is another thing.

Personaly I have installed 2 x 100 w panels, charge controller and leisure batt set up in my summerhouse which I use as an office and the solar takes care of the majority of my office needs.

Theres surely a market for these type of installs! ( even if it is only Celtic fans that can afford it! Lol, your lot need the money to bail yer club out

 

[Wiredspark]

Nice reply...ba5tard lol


For the off grid stuff, you don't need MCS accreditation. There is a market for off grid too.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Just had a look at their three phase course. Oh dear………

10 minutes should be long enough to test the candidates on that course.

I like the look of their 'Professional and friendly team' awaiting my call!

 

[lfcsparkycus]

Please!!! Don't insult every fully qualified and experienced electrician on this forum!!!

where"s the insult! i"m not saying that 17 day courses are good or attended one as they are a waste of money. but whats wrong with someone getting c & g 2330 under there belt, is that not what employers want? then go on to work as a mate and get 2391 as well. many of you bang on about doing the right thing, whats wrong with that?

 

[Engineer54]

where"s the insult! i"m not saying that 17 day courses are good or attended one as they are a waste of money. but whats wrong with someone getting c & g 2330 under there belt, is that not what employers want? then go on to work as a mate and get 2391 as well. many of you bang on about doing the right thing, whats wrong with that?

I take it, ...These are the people you gained your electrical training with!!

 

[nick182]

Yes be careful, they do sponsor this site.

On that note I’m keeping quiet.

But we DO like trade skills reallly

 

[Knobhead]

But we DO like trade skills reallly :iamwithstupid:

That little placard should be pointing at yourself.

 

[nick182]

to be fair though id rather trade skills than the others that are out there.. i just wish there were more apprenticeships about coz in my opinion thats the best road to go down to get ahead in this trade.. no if's or buts about it really..