Mum electrocuted

[Kiers1970]

Mother found dead after she was electrocuted by hedge trimmer | Mail Online

What do you reckon, extension lead plug and socket connected with the plug top live?

Terrible story.

 

[jase]

the "plug" gets attached by diy man to the lead with a 3pin 13A plug on it with the socket, attatched to the hedgetrimmer, woman unplugs hedgetrimmer for whatever reason and wammo, live pins in her hand, these are dangerous wired in the wrong hands, you and i know that we would wire the socket on the end of the lead with the plug going on the hedgetrimmer

 

[ian.settle1]

but does that stop you connecting it to a live cable i.e a standard 3 pin plug can still be wired to a cable that has a standard 3 pin plug on the other end, with your flymo having a standard 3 pin socket on, thus when you plug one plug into a live socket you have the other end with a 3 pin plug on it that has live pins!! which is what can happen with duraplugs!! i.e the plug gets connected to the live cable with the socket on your flymo,

In English please

 

[jase]

see above pic, doesnt matter how offset the earth pin is if you connect it to a flex that is wired to a 13A plug the other end,

 

[ian.settle1]

the "plug" gets attached by diy man to the lead with a 3pin 13A plug on it with the socket, attatched to the hedgetrimmer, woman unplugs hedgetrimmer for whatever reason and wammo, live pins in her hand, these are dangerous wired in the wrong hands, you and i know that we would wire the socket on the end of the lead with the plug going on the hedgetrimmer

The plug on the left of picture goes on the appliance and right hand one on lead.

If Joe Public wishes to connect it so that there are plugs on both ends we cannot allow for stupidity of them which they should have left to a qualified electrician.

The problem with electricity is you can't smell it u like gas but you can hear it when it has a dodgy connection & starts arcing and you can definately feel it should you be stupid enough to touch it.

What makes it even worse about this is that her ex-partner admitted it was faulty/bodged/damaged when they first got it he should be in the dock for manslaughter leaving it in that state when they split up, that could have been one of their children and not her

 

[martysparky]

News like this is very sad indeed.

We should not be hearing things like this!

its annoying going into peoples houses to do a little job and discovering a host of botch electrics.

Its even more annoying that some of us can not afford to sort situations like that out and thus being left in the knowledge that its not as safe as it should be and nothing is going to be done to remedy.

Its even more annoying when people simply will not listen an make out your ripping them off etc as we hear a lot of lately.
How much botch is going a miss in a high risk situation for such reason.

As sad as this is there is nothing about it on Sky News and I wouldn't have known about it if it wasn't on this forum.

PIR's should be compulsory as so many of us say.

 

[ian.settle1]

News like this is very sad indeed.

We should not be hearing things like this!

its annoying going into peoples houses to do a little job and discovering a host of botch electrics.

Its even more annoying that some of us can not afford to sort situations like that out and thus being left in the knowledge that its not as safe as it should be and nothing is going to be done to remedy.

Its even more annoying when people simply will not listen an make out your ripping them off etc as we hear a lot of lately.
How much botch is going a miss in a high risk situation for such reason.

As sad as this is there is nothing about it on Sky News and I wouldn't have known about it if it wasn't on this forum.

PIR's should be compulsory as so many of us say.

If PIRs where compulsory you would then have to say what about appliances plugged into the installation.

In the end it all comes down to cost whilst a company has to do certain things by law so will add these costs onto their customers how does the man in the street pay for it with wages being driven down?

 

[martysparky]

If PIRs where compulsory you would then have to say what about appliances plugged into the installation.

In the end it all comes down to cost whilst a company has to do certain things by law so will add these costs onto their customers how does the man in the street pay for it with wages being driven down?

Sadly so true Ian, I agree totally, wages being driven down people cant afford or not willing to pay the sparks ( the safety people) to keep there homes safe....I guess we'll be hearing more of this kind of thing.

Its got to the pint that insurance jobs are cutting out sparks e.g. A carpenter refits a kitchen after a fire and replaces fire damaged cable etc. but when removes old units finds a mass of botch electrics because the old kitchen was a DIY job. Insurance wont pay any more to get a spark in as the agreement for the renovation has already been made. In this situation with fire damage I think a PIR should defo be compulsory.

of course the carpenter was called by the insurance to renovate and didn't include a total rewire of kitchen to get the work as PIR is not compulsory and only for change of tenancy or every 10 years this is bound to happen. There could well be another fire as the replacement fire damaged cable was just a replacement of botch DIY electrics.

And we sparks are being dumbed down???