NAPIT Certification Scheme Napit Qualification requirements

Richard3009 said:
C&G change the bloody numbers every day, sigh, too many fat cats dipping in the working man's pocket
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the reason that `the national association of professional inspectors & testers` are making it a requirement to hold this ticket....is that they themselves offer their own crappy version..

just another racket to con money out of the unsuspecting.

you need to be COMPETENT...to carry out installation...and then to both inspect & test that installation...thats it

the C&G 2391...or whatever it is now was a way of DEMONSTRATING COMPETENCY.....

but napit are wrong to suggest its a requirement...it flies in the face of BS7671...and last time i looked i thought thats what we were working to...

breathtaking....:nonod:
 
however i still stand behind my argument that in order to prove competency you should be attending college for 3 years minimum...

and i wont budge on that......ever!!
 
Richard3009 said:
They've thought this one through haven't they the robbing swines.
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if you must..

then elecsa will let you notify the works you carry out for your assessment AFTER its been assessed...

so what this means effectively is you carry out the work...have it assessed...then once your accepted you can then notify that work..

saves you on LABC costs...
 
Three years minimum at college defo. Make that five years if the tutors or student is crap! On my 2330 there were 3 lads from ADT, they barely ever listened to a word that was taught...I would have made them do the full three years again. Thank duck they are only fitting alarms...and hopefully nowt else..
 
It looks to me as though with all of them they will take you onboard with the promise you will do your course within 12 months, laughable some will accept just 17th edition
 
Its damn right criminal that you only need to sit 1 online multi choice exam to be "competent" to work in peoples houses, and then have the nerve to charge for it.
 
To be honest Im totally confused by the system as a whole, Im simply going to slap in a consumer unit to the 17th commandment, sit there armed with all my paperwork and my giant chad valley tester, and get assessed, I need to feed my kids.
 
What paperwork have you got to show them? (particularly what qualifications?). I found the guidance NAPIT send you about what they expect to see to be pretty clear, stuff like evidence of calibration, evidence of Public Liability Insurance and if doing EICRs Professional Indemnity, complaints procedure and records, waste disposal policy - although I believe some of that may no longer required, just read what they've sent you. Best of luck.
 
NickD said:
What paperwork have you got to show them? (particularly what qualifications?). I found the guidance NAPIT send you about what they expect to see to be pretty clear, stuff like evidence of calibration, evidence of Public Liability Insurance and if doing EICRs Professional Indemnity, complaints procedure and records, waste disposal policy - although I believe some of that may no longer required, just read what they've sent you. Best of luck.
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you what?

whats this got to do with Napit Nick?

or any other scam for that matter....
 
I have City and Guild 236 part 1 and 2 the gold standard, and 17th edition as I was trained on 16th,
 
But that states, only if you wish to do EICRs through them, of which there is absolutely no need to be a member of a scam for this.
 
Dillb said:
But that states, only if you wish to do EICRs through them, of which there is absolutely no need to be a member of a scam for this.
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I don't believe it adds any cost to the membership and you need the Professional Indemnity for EICRs anyway so I can't be bothered to get my torch and pitchfork and head up to Mansfield about it. I can understand people finding it irritating that they should be creeping their tentacles into this.
 
If you want to do eicrs under their banner they want you to have PI. Simple. No extra cost.

to be honest I can't see why anyone wouldn't have it. Although using it may be a different thing.
 
And since when have the other scams required you to have a inspect and test course? As this certainly was not always the case.
 
wozz said:
If you want to do eicrs under their banner they want you to have PI. Simple. No extra cost.

to be honest I can't see why anyone wouldn't have it. Although using it may be a different thing.
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We all know the arguement that you don't need a 2391/2395 to do EICR just be "competent". But you're right, why wouldn't you want to have it. Having it doesnt prove you can inspect & test but having it adds weight to your competency credibility.

If you have it then you can atleast claim at some point you were somewhere along the competent to test & inspect line! Without it you you're having to do further justification.

Im amazed that EICR's havent been incorporated somehow in the Part 'P' banner to atleast show some inclination to controlling who does them -- the schemes could then require a formal insp & test cert. At the moment literally anyone can do them --- I did some "correction work" for one completed by an appliance fixing engineer!
 
Yes I have 3 certs, just to let you know been in touch with Napit and you can do a restricted full scope, sigh, in a nutshell you can do full domestic including magical locations, but not industrial, and no 3rd party sign offs, lol how much industrial stuff requires part p. Ohhh and guess what restricted full scope does not require inspect and test certs, all for a small fee of £576. Thats a lot of T&E up the chute. Its all so wrong why has the sparky rolled over and accepted this clear exploitation of earnings, I shall be lobbying local government, it's raving bonkers.
 
Richard3009 said:
Yes I have 3 certs, just to let you know been in touch with Napit and you can do a restricted full scope, sigh, in a nutshell you can do full domestic including magical locations, but not industrial, and no 3rd party sign offs, lol how much industrial stuff requires part p. Ohhh and guess what restricted full scope does not require inspect and test certs, all for a small fee of £576. Thats a lot of T&E up the chute. Its all so wrong why has the sparky rolled over and accepted this clear exploitation of earnings, I shall be lobbying local government, it's raving bonkers.
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You should call Elecsa - it may be cheaper, or Stroma
 
Badged01 said:
We all know the arguement that you don't need a 2391/2395 to do EICR just be "competent". But you're right, why wouldn't you want to have it. Having it doesnt prove you can inspect & test but having it adds weight to your competency credibility.

If you have it then you can atleast claim at some point you were somewhere along the competent to test & inspect line! Without it you you're having to do further justification.

Im amazed that EICR's havent been incorporated somehow in the Part 'P' banner to atleast show some inclination to controlling who does them -- the schemes could then require a formal insp & test cert. At the moment literally anyone can do them --- I did some "correction work" for one completed by an appliance fixing engineer!
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oh for christs sake....:nonod:
 
I'm really annoyed about these schemes, how do they cope with a european spark that wants to work in the uk, this needs lobbying in numbers.
 
listen boys:

there was this story i was told..oh a while back now..

twas an `electrician` from spain (possibly from barcelona)...goin round wirin stuff up..

it was all TN-C how he`d done it.....all of it i was told....lol...
 
Richard3009 said:
all for a small fee of £576
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Suggest you find out how much the others are to sign up to, I was told Stroma is cheap. And then either sign up to the cheapest or tell NAPIT you're going elsewhere unless they match it. I daresay they won't, but I bet they'll come down about a hundred notes or so.
 
NickD said:
Suggest you find out how much the others are to sign up to, I was told Stroma is cheap. And then either sign up to the cheapest or tell NAPIT you're going elsewhere unless they match it. I daresay they won't, but I bet they'll come down about a hundred notes or so.
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double check on that...

as i`v heard from some posts in here that they`v a load of hidden charges they try to bum you with....
 
GLENNSPARK said:
listen boys:

there was this story i was told..oh a while back now..

twas an `electrician` from spain (possibly from barcelona)...goin round wirin stuff up..

it was all TN-C how he`d done it.....all of it i was told....lol...
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Bloody hell don't let Pedro near a hospital life support IT type supply.
 
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Richard3009 said:
Not interested in credibility, most customers wil not have the faintest idea of what all this bull**** means.
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I would say considerably more people have heard and know of the 'British Standards Institute' than any of these Mickey Mouse outfits like NIC, NAPIT etc etc.
 
true, but most will go on reputation word of mouth and price, but most of all how you conduct yourself as a person when talking to a potential customer.
 
Archy Styrigg said:
I would say considerably more people have heard and know of the 'British Standards Institute' than any of these Mickey Mouse outfits like NIC, NAPIT etc etc.
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Where clients have a perception of anyone being market leader / gold standard, they usually seem to think it's NICEIC, though it galls me to say it

I have no comment to make about whether BSi actually stands for Bureaucratic, Slow & Inefficient.
 
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From what i can make of it the EAL 2364/65 is an open book examination, so not much different than NAPIT's own brew 2391!!! Makes you wonder, what's the bloody point to it all!!! ....Apart from money aspect that is!!
 
You would be surprised how many highly technical industrial sparks would not know the routine for a domestic test, they would fully understand the principles but the actual parts that need to be done like checking the ring r1+r2 and Zs etc im not sure they would do it naturally.
 
Richard3009 said:
You would be surprised how many highly technical industrial sparks would not know the routine for a domestic test, they would fully understand the principles but the actual parts that need to be done like checking the ring r1+r2 and Zs etc im not sure they would do it naturally.
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I would indeed be highly surprised if an industrial electrician wouldn't be testing ring circuits correctly, and even more surprised if they didn't test for Zs values. Routines are exactly the same for industrial installations as they are for domestic/commercial installations. They will also in many cases, be conducting tests that are outside of anything laid out under BS7671...
 

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