National championship

[TheReturnOfHightower]

 

[Megawatt]

Unfortunately the above is why there are so many electrical fires.

The only electrical fires is from people plugging space heaters in to outlets that is marked for general use only and using drop cords. I have never had a problem with my work and I try and educate people on what not to do. Be real all they did in the ideal championship was 1 room, of course I would turn it on

 

[DPG]

The only electrical fires is from people plugging space heaters in to outlets that is marked for general use only and using drop cords.

So there are no fires in America caused by loose connections?

 

[Bobster]

The only electrical fires is from people plugging space heaters in to outlets that is marked for general use only and using drop cords. I have never had a problem with my work and I try and educate people on what not to do. Be real all they did in the ideal championship was 1 room, of course I would turn it on

Home electrical

fires account for an estimated 51,000 fires each year, nearly than 500 deaths, more than 1,400 injuries, and $1.3 billion in property damage

In 2018 in the UK there were just over 2000 electrical fires. However I can't make the comparison with statistics here, as there are so many more houses in the US.

 

[Pete999]

The only electrical fires is from people plugging space heaters in to outlets that is marked for general use only and using drop cords. I have never had a problem with my work and I try and educate people on what not to do. Be real all they did in the ideal championship was 1 room, of course I would turn it on

Megawatt, sorry can't agree with you statement in the above post regarding electrical fires and space heaters being the only cause of electrical fires, one of the causes, I grant you, the only cause, come on smell the Roses Mate.

 

[davesparks]

The only electrical fires is from people plugging space heaters in to outlets that is marked for general use only and using drop cords. I have never had a problem with my work and I try and educate people on what not to do.

Wow, so there has never been a fire from a loose connection, shirt circuit, conductive dust ingress, trapped conductor etc etc?

If I had never done any inspection or testing then I could probably also say I've never had a problem with my work. However I do carry out testing and have on rare occasions found a problem with my work which ive put right before turning things on.

 

[Bobster]

Wow, so there has never been a fire from a loose connection, shirt circuit, conductive dust ingress, trapped conductor etc etc?

If I had never done any inspection or testing then I could probably also say I've never had a problem with my work. However I do carry out testing and have on rare occasions found a problem with my work which ive put right before turning things on.

Dave, don't forget I bet most immediate faults are found with the good old fashioned bang test.

I know I've seen a few found in the states watching electricians follow this method.

 

[Megawatt]

So there are no fires in America caused by loose connections?

Not that I’m aware of and Dave you just misunderstood of how we do things in America, we don’t just wire something up and walk away. I’ve been doing this work for 32 years and yes something as simple as one room yes I would turn on after I checked the worked. We are not idiots and we are inspected by state certified inspectors. Like you l shake my head at some of the things I have seen and read on this forum. We are professionals and stand by our work

 

[Bobster]

Not that I’m aware of and Dave you just misunderstood of how we do things in America, we don’t just wire something up and walk away. I’ve been doing this work for 32 years and yes something as simple as one room yes I would turn on after I checked the worked. We are not idiots and we are inspected by state certified inspectors. Like you l shake my head at some of the things I have seen and read on this forum. We are professionals and stand by our work

Seen 8 close to fires and 1 small fire caused by wire nuts. (loose/poor connections).

I'm not saying the UK is infallible, far from it. However all of your responses come through the view of rose tinted glasses it seems.

 

[Megawatt]

Seen 8 close to fires and 1 small fire caused by wire nuts. (loose/poor connections).

I'm not saying the UK is infallible, far from it. However all of your responses come through the view of rose tinted glasses it seems.

Rob had to be in your country

 

[Bobster]

Rob had to be in your country

I haven't worked in the UK for 14months now.

Most of my work now is in the USA with some stints in Germany. So what I am saying is first hand experience.

The UK doesn't use wire nuts. They did try to introduce them, but they never took off.

 

[Megawatt]

Rob had to be in your country

I can’t understand what the UK has against wire nuts we just use them on smaller wires with very little current other than that we use split bolts. Junction boxes are for distribution of circuits to lighting and no we don’t have terminal blocks in our junction boxes and in my opinion that just runs up the price on the customer.

 

[Megawatt]

I haven't worked in the UK for 14months now.

Most of my work now is in the USA with some stints in Germany. So what I am saying is first hand experience.

The UK doesn't use wire nuts. They did try to introduce them, but they never took off.

Rob I agree we have a lot of idiots who do work in America that should be picking up trash on the side of the road. They give people that go through the process of getting there license a bad name and I have worked a lot of people that should not be in this trade. All countries have them

 

[Megawatt]

The NEC code is pretty much a paint by numbers rule book.
The installation method is pretty basic as is the paperwork trail.
It’s a rudimentary system but has to be admired for its simplicity.
They have some very odd terminology and their bonding grounding system is pretty unusual for us as is having mixed lights and sockets on one breaker.
But it’s just how they do it....

Dusty how about you getting a copy of the NEC and start reading it then come back and see if it is as easy as paint by numbers, just read article 250 bonding and grounding

 

[Megawatt]

Wow, so there has never been a fire from a loose connection, shirt circuit, conductive dust ingress, trapped conductor etc etc?

If I had never done any inspection or testing then I could probably also say I've never had a problem with my work. However I do carry out testing and have on rare occasions found a problem with my work which ive put right before turning things on.

Dave I do my work right before I walk away from it

 

[Pete999]

Rob I agree we have a lot of idiots who do work in America that should be picking up trash on the side of the road. They give people that go through the process of getting there license a bad name and I have worked a lot of people that should not be in this trade. All countries have them

Got to admire the US at least they have a licensing regime.