need help filling out a test form

[j3tox]

hi, i've just recently set up on my own and was wandering if anyone could help me filling out a test form for a rewire i have done for a friend,
1-What is the bs number for a bill 100a main fuse on a tns system?
2-How do i work out the prospective fault current?
3-What will the short circuit capacity be of the main fuse
4-where can i find the maximum permitted Zs for lighting circuit
5-where can i find the maximum permitted Zs for ring final circuit
6-where can i find the short circuit capacity for a lighting circuit
7-where can i find the short circuit capacity for a ring final circuit
8-Is R1 + R2 the resistance of live to earth on a low reading ohmeter

thanks to anyone who takes the time the help, i know i need to buy a copy of the regs, hopefully it'll be in my stocking

cheers jack

 

[michufc]

Hold up a second sunshine and get down of your high horse, are you telling me you know every reg without consulting the regs book? i think not. I will one hundred and ten percent guarantee i have not wasted my money as i will pass the niceic and proceed to learn and better myself throughout my career. Obviously not with the help of jumped up maggots like yourself. If your that good of a spark why are you not at work now? because nobody would work with such a ---- as yourself.

I'm 22 and trying to earn a living doing a good job for a fair price with every intention of getting to the highest level. I have swallowed my pride to ask for help only to be kicked in the nuts by you an obvious stereotypical little man.

God help your boyfrind/wife

i have just started my own business and been assesed by the niceic recently i am not trying to be funny with you but will get GRILLED and i mean GRILLED so you really need some urgent revision in testing and inspecting.

not trying to affend you but you must realise why people are so enoyed because there are so cowboys out there

good luck

 

[4x4 mark]

you might be the best spark in the world at what you do, but if that is just metal munching or glanding big armoureds off then you will fail your inspection with the nic as they expect you to be able to test and inspect your work, i aint poking fun at you cos i went for a long time with no experiance of t and t but i got sick of a bloke at work looking down his nose at me saying i wasnt a proper spark.
i know you are looking for answers to your questions but you need to do the 2391 course and get your head round it cos just buying a copy of the regs will not give you the ability to ask "so how did you get that answer".

 

[bonjovi]

all im going to say now that you have rewired your mate house is pay someone to test it and make sure it is safe and complies with the regulations .
and then if you dont fancy paying every time you do any work go on a course and understand the principles
nowdays someone has to be ACCOUNTABLE for a accident if i happens , that is why the paperwork is their to tell a court if a house catches fire or someone dies who did it and did it complyto regs. because you will be facing 15yrs in the slammer for manslaughter OR be sued for the cost of the house fire plus possestions . take the course with knowledge that is what will make you a better spark i believe this is you next step

 

[RETIREDSPARKY]

Where have all the standards gone, a long time passing!!!!!

 

[Guest123]

Have to say i'm amazed, whilst I respect you trying on your own in this tough financial climate, You really will strugle with your NIC assessment. In your shoes I would postpone my assessment and go do the C&G 2391. It's a great course and worth every penny.

 

[maddfridge]

Have to say i'm amazed, whilst I respect you trying on your own in this tough financial climate, You really will strugle with your NIC assessment. In your shoes I would postpone my assessment and go do the C&G 2391. It's a great course and worth every penny.

oh come on

Now you are having a laugh 2391 a great course ?????????

if it is that great why are they having to split it up to make it easier ???

2391 needs changing and rapidly when i took it in 2004 it was solely aimed at the domestic market .

lo and behold along came part p for other trade who could not manage it .

It should be split up into the main academic side like 29 week evenings and then sit the exam.

once you have got that then you sit the practical that way at least you know the theory and then prove afterward.

The pass mark is around 20 to 30 percent per exam as i am led to believe .

What we are all missing here is not the fact that we have to try to get work experience then qualified this was called an apprenticeship. Know many of these around no i did not thinks .

and by the way 2391 is now the design course as well.

so everyone what do you think needs to happen more training more jobs ??

the answer is one governing body for electrical like the way the gas corgi is
and yes i know thats not perfect but at least is is in one place

happy new year to you all

 

[Guest123]

I fail to see how you can claim that in 2004 it was aimed at the domestic market. I did mine in 2003 and there were short and long answer questions on 3p inspection and testing along with problems in industrial, commercial and agricultural situations. My course was 14 week evenings followed by a 2hour practical and then a 2 and a half hour written exam.

Also the 2391 is not the design course. the 2391 02 is the design course just changed the number is all from 2400.

 

[maddfridge]

I fail to see how you can claim that in 2004 it was aimed at the domestic market. I did mine in 2003 and there were short and long answer questions on 3p inspection and testing along with problems in industrial, commercial and agricultural situations. My course was 14 week evenings followed by a 2hour practical and then a 2 and a half hour written exam.

Also the 2391 is not the design course. the 2391 02 is the design course just changed the number is all from 2400.

hi there
sorry mate you are behind a little C & G 2391-301.302,303,304 is all under one number to avoid confusion ???

this has replaced 2400 just sat the exam on the 9th Dec and sent project of last week some effort !

What i was implying that was the way the course was aimed was not as the commercial side as it was set up on the domestic theme so when you came to the exam many had studied the domestic stuff and were stuffed when it came to it. I work with two guys who had this happen to them in 2006 and 2007 and have spent some time in helping them through it. all that effort to find it may be split into two areas ???

yeah you guessed it commercial and domestic so if our friend on here has a niceic inspection will that only be domestic or industrial with so many trade associations around all with varying degrees of standards what should it be ?

The idea of a standard testing regime is good and of course can be used in both spheres but a what point do you draw the line.

i will start a new thread if you don't mind about what standard of competence should an electrician deemed to be competent
i know what the reg state .

cheers

 

[Guest123]

Ok, I understand a little more about what you are getting at now.

I agree with your thoughts on a "corgi" style body for insp and test, as there are as you rightly state so many different associations for part "p" out there.

I dont think you could seperate the main area's of the work i.e domestic, industrial commercial agricultural etc as where I live a company could not survive on domestic alone - very rural.

In larger cities you probably could as indeed some of the guys on here do.

Also starting a new thread like the one you suggested will open a massive can of worms as lots of people feel very strongly about it.

 

[maddfridge]

whoops done it anyway

i like worms cut one in half and you get two.
bit like mondays now seem like the rest of the week

back tomorrrow for more testing and stuff

dont you feel sorry for the poor lottery winner who is 800000 short because of lost tickets sales

cheers