Need to get 3 core electrical wire that is regulation compliant

[Brightspark2]

But he is wanting to terminate in to a standard 13a plug top.

I know, I was providing an example to people. Wasn't directed at you

In 3 core G/y, Blue, Brown, 1.5mm or whatever?

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Yes can be to the motor but not G/Y, Blue, Brown to the hand controls.

 

[grantr37]

oh dear :rolleyes2:

 

[garrywatters]

The only place I have been able to locate something similar online is from ebay Australia

25m roll electrical cable flat 2.5sq mm 3 core (2C+E) wire for power circuits | eBay

And the colour coding is wrong. Ideally looking to source this locally in small lengths.

Thanks

That colour coding is perfectly fine......for here down under! LOL

 

[not clever]

Cant see what the issue is.
If it is for a prototype then use flatform cable as per the links posted earlier (it isnt solid core it is fine strand), modify a standard plug top so cable fits.
Go through the due processess to get the design spot on & all codes adhered too & then manufature with a moulded plug. Just because we are used to plut tops accepting nothing but round/oval flex, doesnt mean a plugtop can not be designed manufactured & introduced to the market, that is new & accepts nothing but flatformed cable................amazes me how we as a nation ever invented **** all with all this negativity, Just think what the world would be like today if Frank Whittle had listened to his critics.

Go for it & dont listen to the "you cant do merchants" I say!

 

[Brightspark2]

I thought this was just for himself, not a prototype or anything like that??...

Have I missed something?...

 

[Adam W]

I thought this was just for himself, not a prototype or anything like that??...

Have I missed something?...

I think he's trying to invent something but he's being really cagey about what it is in case we steal his idea.
In his other thread he was asking if recessing a socket into a wall cavity like they do in America is legal here or if we just don't do it because we're narrow minded. The example he gave was for a flat panel TV but I don't think that's what he's trying to do.

You know those threads where someone asks you directly how to do something which leaves you wondering why anyone would want to do that, then when you manage to extract from them the reason why they want to do it it turns out they're trying to fix a common problem the wrong way?
This reminds me of that.

 

[Brightspark2]

I think he's trying to invent something but he's being really cagey about what it is in case we steal his idea.
In his other thread he was asking if recessing a socket into a wall cavity like they do in America is legal here or if we just don't do it because we're narrow minded. The example he gave was for a flat panel TV but I don't think that's what he's trying to do.

You know those threads where someone asks you directly how to do something which leaves you wondering why anyone would want to do that, then when you manage to extract from them the reason why they want to do it it turns out they're trying to fix a common problem the wrong way?
This reminds me of that.

Ha ha yeh I know what you mean.

Oh I see, I actually thought he'd put that in the first post but in fact it seems my mind merged both of the topics together. Or the admin in my mind did.

It's all clear now, I understand what he's trying to do.

I have a new question, are TV's that can be hard wired not BS1363 compliant.

I think ive just put you out of business alitech. Thats business!!!

 

[shocking_eg]

we don't even know the loading that this cable needs to suffice ????

 

[Darkwood]

If the cable is subject to flexing then a round cable must be used unless! flexing direction is physically limited to 2 opposite planes.... hence flat-form flex(fine wire) on cranes can be used as it limits twisting and bends on only the planes you want it to bend on, if the cable is suitably small enough then this becomes less of an issue ( hairdryer 2core) but the OP requested 3 core so in flat form this would only be suitable in a situation as in my example. Its really hard to give a good clear answer when the OP limits the info for protection of his invention, he would need to read up on all the relevant BS standards regarding plug tops and have an understanding of the pro and cons of different cable structures to have a compliant set up.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Ok, but why? because they will fracture and cause me problems? What is the official take on this? Why can you not use a good solid flat flex cable with a 13A plug? Something that doesn't crack or fracture...

The "official take" as you so eloquently put it is: DON'T DO IT!!

 

[Outspoken]

OK, this cannot be done. I sent an email to Eland cables to see if such a cable existed, here is the response I received (I did this via work email)

"Dear Jim,

Firstly let me say thank you for your enquiry but I am afraid to say that within current British Standards it is not possible for us, or any other manufacturer to produce a 3 core fully insulated cable that is in flat form. BS EN 3183Y/B/TQ type cables have strict controls in place and any deviation from them would make the cable non-compliant and thus we would not be allowed to sell it in the UK, across Europe and even in the United States.

Many emerging markets are adopting western imposed compliance on cable types and manufacture, some of this driven by the cable industry for cost of production reasons, but also because there is a real recognition that safety standards need to be international for many products that are produced around the world for international sales.

I am sorry but I cannot offer a solution to your problem because as far as I am aware no BASEC compliant manufacturer produces such a cable, as i have said, they would not be British Standard or European Standard compliant.

Regards

Michael Adams
Technical Specifications Engineer"

I think that closes the door on this.

 

[Rockingit]

3 x cores of tri-rate sheathed in shrink.

 

[telectrix]

reading some of the posts, i think some of us need to see a shrink.

 

[Outspoken]

3 x cores of tri-rate sheathed in shrink.

Compliance may be an issue!

 

[Stroppy]

would not be allowed to sell it in the UK, across Europe and even in the United States, and they are electrical idiots.

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