Negotiations going as expected....

[telectrix]

. I may add,that i am in favour of absolutely anything,which makes any Frenchman, cross

bravo.

 

[andyb]

I'm in the mood to play devil's advocate, I may add,that i am in favour of absolutely anything,which makes any Frenchman, cross

I think you should look up the term 'devil's advocate'

 

[Squid]

The EU will try to punish us, its the same as the vindictive husband who's wife of 25 years has had enough and has decided to leave him and now he will try to screw her over and control her.

What most of the people in the UK are sick off is being "controlled" by Europe (France and Germany) immigration is far too high, its fine for people that want to work but we are getting the dregs of the world coming here as all they see is "free money" and asylum should be claimed in the first free/safe country you arrive in.

To me its spitefulness and if we are going to leave then just leave and tell them to do one, most people I believe who voted out thought they'd never win and it would have fired a warning shot across the bows of the EU ship which is basically a bunch of freeloaders lining their own pockets as fast as then can with their all self interests a number one priority. The problem is the Leave Campaign won, what the EU should have said is "bugger, we need to change" and to implement a relaxation of the rules and to give us back the freedoms that have been taken away bit by bit, deportations should be easier and the removal of the undesirables, I have Abu Hamza's wife living around the corner from me in a nice 4 bedroom council house thats worth about £1.2M and the residents aren't happy about it but they can't touch her, anyways turning in to a bit of a rant.

London opportunity to work is a lot better then the rest of the country and I can imagine its a lot worse Northwards of Watford jobs wise and trying to find somewhere to live but maybe the members on here that are in those areas can comment on that aspect.

 

[Squid]

. I may add,that i am in favour of absolutely anything,which makes any Frenchman, cross

bravo.

You need this book then,

 

[Midwest]

Don't care which way any one voted, we're leaving. But those that voted out, believe this process is going to be anything other than costly or problematic, is being a bit naive.

We've been in this 'club' for a long time, with its tentacles embedded in our constitution, legislation and business. So that's going to take some organising, and work obtaining new business.

Somewhat like the advice regular given to those on here asking if they should go self employed. The answer is mostly always yes, but with a few caveats.

There's always rattling of swords at these events, which eventually will get sorted, it has to, 'cos that's what we decided to do.

 

[sparksburnout]

The EU will try to punish us, its the same as the vindictive husband who's wife of 25 years has had enough and has decided to leave him and now he will try to screw her over and control her.

What most of the people in the UK are sick off is being "controlled" by Europe (France and Germany) immigration is far too high, its fine for people that want to work but we are getting the dregs of the world coming here as all they see is "free money" and asylum should be claimed in the first free/safe country you arrive in.

To me its spitefulness and if we are going to leave then just leave and tell them to do one, most people I believe who voted out thought they'd never win and it would have fired a warning shot across the bows of the EU ship which is basically a bunch of freeloaders lining their own pockets as fast as then can with their all self interests a number one priority. The problem is the Leave Campaign won, what the EU should have said is "bugger, we need to change" and to implement a relaxation of the rules and to give us back the freedoms that have been taken away bit by bit, deportations should be easier and the removal of the undesirables, I have Abu Hamza's wife living around the corner from me in a nice 4 bedroom council house thats worth about £1.2M and the residents aren't happy about it but they can't touch her, anyways turning in to a bit of a rant.

London opportunity to work is a lot better then the rest of the country and I can imagine its a lot worse Northwards of Watford jobs wise and trying to find somewhere to live but maybe the members on here that are in those areas can comment on that aspect.

Exactly right SWD, my thoughts entirely. My hope is that when things get to a stalemate and the British negotiators give them the ultimatum that they must, on behalf of the British taxpayers, that the real leaders in the EU will start to get messages to Junkers and Co that they need to stop the playground bully act and start talking sense. I don't think the bosses at BMW and Audi, for example, will just stand back and let the likes of these EU leaders cut off their income stream from us. However, if needs be, it will have to happen. As an example there are plenty of luxury car makes outside of the EU that we could buy from.
Brilliant point regarding France and Germany, no other country seems to be involved as far as I can see, some 27 nations.......oh until they start moaning about not getting as many handouts when we have left.

 

[telectrix]

what we need at this moment in time is another Churchill or Thatcher. a PM with the balls to stand up to these eurine bullies and give it to them. stood up to hitler and galtieri, so this load of cretins should be no problem for a UK government that has the guts to fight the barstewards.

 

[sparksburnout]

what we need at this moment in time is another Churchill or Thatcher. a PM with the balls to stand up to these eurine bullies and give it to them. stood up to hitler and galtieri, so this load of cretins should be no problem for a UK government that has the guts to fight the barstewards.

I have no time for Maggie but at least she would have had the balls to tell these bully boys where to go. They are starting to show their true colours now, they obviously haven't got the message that we are sick of getting our hands in our pockets to bail their "club" members out.

 

[sparksburnout]

Oh and by the way I think we ought to tell them where they can shove their weedy 500W vacuum cleaners, just to get the ball rolling a bit faster. What a complete joke that is, saving emissions! just shows what a bunch of pillocks they are.

 

[Squid]

Oh and by the way I think we ought to tell them where they can shove their weedy 500W vacuum cleaners, just to get the ball rolling a bit faster. What a complete joke that is, saving emissions! just shows what a bunch of pillocks they are.

All that will happen is that your cleaner will take twice as long to hoover thats using the same amount of energy and causing the same amount of emissions but you'll have to pay her for an extra 30 mins of her time.

 

[telectrix]

agree. a 500watt vac can maybe do the job, but it will be running twice as long as a 1000watt. so where's the saving.? same as a 3kw kettle will boil in half the time of a 1500watt. basic physics. energy in = energy out ( less any losses, of course). but then these are pencil necks. can't see wood when a tree is in the way.

 

[sparksburnout]

agree. a 500watt vac can maybe do the job, but it will be running twice as long as a 1000watt. so where's the saving.? same as a 3kw kettle will boil in half the time of a 1500watt. basic physics. energy in = energy out ( less any losses, of course). but then these are pencil necks. can't see wood when a tree is in the way.

In fact, albeit it arguably trivial, this is a perfect example of why we should divorce ourselves from these idiots. I wonder how much this masterpiece of meaningless rubbish EU directive has cost? People who voted remain must be very embarrassed by this astonishing example of EU ----ery, I would be.

 

[Des 56]

Yet another prime example of believing headline rubbish and not the facts

Try these quotes from Which


While you’re unlikely to see a noticeable reduction in your energy bills at home, the EU estimates that the amount of energy saved as a result of the label will be 20TWh annually, that’s equivalent to the residential electricity consumption of Belgium

While it is too early to say what the impact of new regulations will be, we have tested vacuum cleaners with 900W motors that do a better job of dust-busting than vacuum cleaners with motors two or three times the size. What’s more, we’ve reported on vacuum cleaners in the past that are so noisy, you’d be forgiven for thinking that you were using a lawnmower to clean your living room. So the maximum noise restriction could be good news for your ears.

Making efforts to contain global warming does not seem to be as important as the headline makers will have you believing

Oh and whilst I got myself sucked in again to a thread after I intended staying well away from
I was almost chewing the screen when it was posted how that dead politician with the annoying voice would have sorted them out

She did enough damage destroying the communities in Wales and elsewhere, the evil deeds she resided over is still impacting to this day

 

[sparksburnout]

Yet another prime example of believing headline rubbish and not the facts

Try these quotes from Which


While you’re unlikely to see a noticeable reduction in your energy bills at home, the EU estimates that the amount of energy saved as a result of the label will be 20TWh annually, that’s equivalent to the residential electricity consumption of Belgium

While it is too early to say what the impact of new regulations will be, we have tested vacuum cleaners with 900W motors that do a better job of dust-busting than vacuum cleaners with motors two or three times the size. What’s more, we’ve reported on vacuum cleaners in the past that are so noisy, you’d be forgiven for thinking that you were using a lawnmower to clean your living room. So the maximum noise restriction could be good news for your ears.

Making efforts to contain global warming does not seem to be as important as the headline makers will have you believing

Like I said earlier, Cobblers. See Tel's post regarding the physics, and more importantly the reality.

 

[Des 56]

Yes,I can see that truth does indeed blind those who dont want it shown
Oh and dittro with your favourite retort, cobblers to your post