New build part p ans being registered

[magnoliafan89]

Hi all

My in laws are having their new build wired bur the company are not part of anybody such as nic eic
They are on about self certifying their work and noy notifying building control....is this possible?
Or would building control need to come and have a look?

 

[LankyWill]

If there not using a scheme to certify they need to notify LABC, this is a more costly route. LABC usually send a scheme registered electrician to oversee the work throughout 1st, 2nd fix stages.

 

[ferg]

Are your in-laws in England or Wales?

Different rules apply elsewhere.

 

[sham]

They can get another Electrician to certify the work and give building notification. Scheme companies as in NIC will say you can not certify somebodies else's work, but you can by law.

 

[Midwest]

Depends on the company, if they are competent and can prove that to your LBC, and their competency is accepted. The notification will come with approval of the new build planning permission.

 

[Fitzy]

If they’re not members of any competent persons scheme, then you won’t know if the rewire is safe or not, or if they know what they’re doing and I doubt any of the certifications will valid either. If I was your in-laws I would sack them and get another CPS registered electrician to complete the rewire.

 

[telectrix]

if it's a new biuild, the installer just needs to prove competence to LABC, usually by giving them a copy of his quals. then on completion give them a copy of the EIC.

 

[ferg]

If they’re not members of any competent persons scheme, then you won’t know if the rewire is safe or not, or if they know what they’re doing and I doubt any of the certifications will valid either. If I was your in-laws I would sack them and get another CPS registered electrician to complete the rewire.

I'm not sure I agree with much if any of that statement.

 

[magnoliafan89]

Ok thanks guys

 

[sham]

If they’re not members of any competent persons scheme, then you won’t know if the rewire is safe or not, or if they know what they’re doing and I doubt any of the certifications will valid either. If I was your in-laws I would sack them and get another CPS registered electrician to complete the rewire.

Agree, why stress.
I believe in covering you back, does it hurt to get in an certified electrician. Unless they can get there own work tested and inspected by a third party.

 

[sham]

I'm not sure I agree with much if any of that statement.

Please elaborate, I want to know this because if it means saving money by not being part of a scheme. I won't renew next year.

 

[telectrix]

my post only applies when planning consent is already in place. i.e. BC are involved anyway. theit £300 fee is to raise a building notice, but this will already have been done as part of the planning approval.

 

[Pete999]

If they’re not members of any competent persons scheme, then you won’t know if the rewire is safe or not, or if they know what they’re doing and I doubt any of the certifications will valid either. If I was your in-laws I would sack them and get another CPS registered electrician to complete the rewire.

So going by your reply, if an Electrician of a certain age, does not belong to a Scheme, He/ She shouldn't be doing rewires because he doesn't know what He/ She is doing, well judging by some of the questions asked on the Forum, neither do some of the Domestic Installers who "belong" to a Scheme. You get it 5 weeks on a DI course, Pass some meaningless course, join a Scheme, get yourself registered with one of the CP outfits, laughable.

 

[sham]

my post only applies when planning consent is already in place. i.e. BC are involved anyway. theit £300 fee is to raise a building notice, but this will already have been done as part of the planning approval.

Just thinking that if BC send there own electrical inspector, he will be part of a scheme anyway. So it would make sense to get the work done by a registered spark anyway. Am I right in saying this.

 

[telectrix]

agreed. competent towork in a nuclear power station, but not considered competent to fit a shower in a house. ridiculous.