New build part p ans being registered

[magnoliafan89]

Hi all

My in laws are having their new build wired bur the company are not part of anybody such as nic eic
They are on about self certifying their work and noy notifying building control....is this possible?
Or would building control need to come and have a look?

 

[JAWS]

Well Fitzy?

Pete his qualifications are here. Newbie to the forum, please be gentle..... - https://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/threads/newbie-to-the-forum-please-be-gentle.142549/

 

[Pete999]

Pete his qualifications are here. Newbie to the forum, please be gentle..... - https://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/threads/newbie-to-the-forum-please-be-gentle.142549/

His quals should be on his profile, he hashis own company "Fitzy the Sparky" so keeping his profile upto date shouldn't be a difficult task, it would save any misunderstanding and comments from the likes of me. Simple really.

 

[Octopus]

My in laws are having their new build wired bur the company are not part of anybody such as nic eic

They are on about self certifying their work and not notifying building control....is this possible?

Or would building control need to come and have a look?

You need to make sure that your in-laws are aware of the issues they will be facing getting:

A. A completion certificate

B. Answering all the questions as and when they want to sell the property.

Seeing as "A" is more pressing, then they need to deal with this issue NOW, and in writing with LABC ..................

Burying their heads in the sand / and or hoping this issue will go away are not options IMHO.

 

[Fitzy]

if it's a new biuild, the installer just needs to prove competence to LABC, usually by giving them a copy of his quals. then on completion give them a copy of the EIC.

So you don’t need to be a scheme member to work on new builds? Is that because the developer/builder would’ve notified the local building Control?

 

[Fitzy]

His quals should be on his profile, he hashis own company "Fitzy the Sparky" so keeping his profile upto date shouldn't be a difficult task, it would save any misunderstanding and comments from the likes of me. Simple really.

Fitzy The Sparky isn’t my company name.....

My post was just my opinion like everyone else’s opinion, but based on what I’ve read on here when you and other time served sparkies lay in to other posters when they don’t get building control involved etc “they’re probably not qualified or dont even know what they’re doing” etc.....

 

[Fitzy]

What exactly is the City and Guilds Qualification you currently hold Fitzy?

Part P (not scheme registered yet), initial inspecting testing & 17th edition amd 3. Whys that Pete999, gonna give me a bashing now as I’ve not done am apprenticeship?

 

[Midwest]

Fitzy The Sparky isn’t my company name.....

My post was just my opinion like everyone else’s opinion, but based on what I’ve read on here when you and other time served sparkies lay in to other posters when they don’t get building control involved etc “they’re probably not qualified or dont even know what they’re doing” etc.....

Fitzy does have a point there.

However, last month I was in a scheme, this month I'm not. Does that change my competency - no wise arsed remarks please

 

[Midwest]

Part P (not scheme registered yet), initial inspecting testing & 17th edition amd 3. Whys that Pete999, gonna give me a bashing now as I’ve not done am apprenticeship?

There is a bit of snobbery involved in some of this. I did an apprenticeship 45 years ago, and return to the industry 5 years ago, after a 30 year gap. I bet there's some of the Electrical Trainee, that had more knowledge than me, when I did return; experience thats subjective.

 

[Midwest]

You need to make sure that your in-laws are aware of the issues they will be facing getting:

A. A completion certificate

B. Answering all the questions as and when they want to sell the property.

Seeing as "A" is more pressing, then they need to deal with this issue NOW, and in writing with LABC ..................

Burying their heads in the sand / and or hoping this issue will go away are not options IMHO.

Just because this company is not in a scheme, doesn't necessarily mean they are not competent to carry out the work, supply the appropriate certification and supply a compliance certificate, as I alluded to in # 5.

If you binned Stroma tomorrow, would that make you incompetent as an electrician?

 

[Pete999]

Fitzy The Sparky isn’t my company name.....

My post was just my opinion like everyone else’s opinion, but based on what I’ve read on here when you and other time served sparkies lay in to other posters when they don’t get building control involved etc “they’re probably not qualified or dont even know what they’re doing” etc.....

Well that's what it says in your profile Fitzy.

 

[Pete999]

Part P (not scheme registered yet), initial inspecting testing & 17th edition amd 3. Whys that Pete999, gonna give me a bashing now as I’ve not done am apprenticeship?

No not at all

 

[Pete999]

Fitzy does have a point there.

However, last month I was in a scheme, this month I'm not. Does that change my competency - no wise arsed remarks please

No my point exactly

 

[telectrix]

 

[Midwest]

Arrh another musical interlude, wot about this;

PS its not very catchy

PPS JW what a very chic jacket

 

[Octopus]

Just because this company is not in a scheme, doesn't necessarily mean they are not competent to carry out the work, supply the appropriate certification and supply a compliance certificate, as I alluded to in # 5.

I never said the contractors weren't competent .......... I was simply pointing out that the In-Laws need to address this issue NOW ....rather than when they have paid all the bills and difficult questions are being asked .........