New career skills (court action)??

[stuartgil]

Hi people of the real electrical world! Just wondering if any one has done the electrician course with NCS as I have and not been able to get a job as an electrician as their web site suggests?? I have spoken to another mature student and he is on about getting a court case against them? As their web site states "train to be an electrician and earn 30k+ a year" this is surely false advertising as the qualification is not recognised within the true electrical industry and even if you were to register with a scheme you are still not deemed an "electrician"! Thoughts of you wise ppl please!

 

[stuartgil]

Believe me,I know where you are coming from, literally

It may well be the case that you are down the list with your applications at the moment,but times change and with it the demands of the employers
Also opportunity can open up sometimes when you least expect them to
What sector are you trying to enter?

i have been looking at companies that carry out maintenance as I don't have any 3ph experience but not much luck that's why I registered with a few agencies for an electricians mate in the hope that a long term contract my come up!! I appreciate your positivity Des an I do hope you are right about getting a call outta the blue!!

 

[markc123]

LOL

Nigel and Antony Got New Careers With NCS - YouTube

check out this at 1.40 NCS again.....

NCS if i was caught doing that during my apprentership, id have no wage packet for the week. Great training.

 

[stuartgil]

How did he know there were no bare live conductors touching that metal back box lol

 

[ipf]

i have been looking at companies that carry out maintenance as I don't have any 3ph experience but not much luck that's why I registered with a few agencies for an electricians mate in the hope that a long term contract my come up!! I appreciate your positivity Des an I do hope you are right about getting a call outta the blue!!

Realise you've been done up like a kipper, Stuart, sorry and hope you get some decent work experience, which might lead to something further.
But, it's a nasty world these days, shysters who know nothing about the trade only interested in making money out of others. We've seen it all before and the game's on such a road now that I can't see decent recovery. If you get a chance, take it. Good luck.

 

[stuartgil]

Realise you've been done up like a kipper, Stuart, sorry and hope you get some decent work experience, which might lead to something further.
But, it's a nasty world these days, shysters who know nothing about the trade only interested in making money out of others. We've seen it all before and the game's on such a road now that I can't see decent recovery. If you get a chance, take it. Good luck.

Cheers ipf, I hope to get something even if it's temporary as like most are saying experience is key to employment and also the right route into the industry which is college! Which I WILL be going through no matter what it takes!!!

 

[UNG]

NCS certainly use some cheesy videos to promote themselves and some of it has obviously rubbed off on Nigel with the video he uses to promote his business on his company website

I find some of the comments made in the NCS videos very misleading "there is a shortage of 35,000 electricians" if we are so short of sparks where is all the work and the fact they use ex electricians to give the training must tell people it's not that rosie on the tools, not quite sure what sort of conscience these ex sparks have when they are knowingly sending people out in to the industry they know so woefully under trained

Feel sorry for these people that are taken in by these missold training scams but a couple of things spring to mind "if it looks to good to be true then it is too good to be true" and "caveat emptor (let the buyer beware)" it is all to easy to be taken in by these people with the promise of rich pickings

I think the OP is the first of many to admit it has all gone wrong

 

[Englishman]

HAHAHAHA, if anyone on this site in the hampshire area knows that bellend then please jab him from all of us here at electriciansforums.co.uk

What a complete load of tosh. Barry, you're not an electrician.

Isit just me or is his tote empty? Mines bigger than that and nearlly ways a ton lol

Every time I lighten mine and bung a load of bits I don't use as often in my carry box, it gets stupidly heavy again within a week or so. It's a nightmare. Fat ----- looks like he's got about 3 things in his.

 

[UNG]

As normally happens when I end up looking at youtube after watching the NCS videos I got diverted off to looking at the related videos

Found this one How To Become An Electrician - YouTube the guy reckons he's been a spark for 25 years but doesn't apparently know what second fix is about a minute in

 

[Des 56]

Just seen it and the 2nd fix comment,all I can say is,oh dear

Towards the end,the massive skills shortage and the fantastic pay is mentioned

Oh and just to add, my old friends the Niceic,I notice they got their mention.
Mind you,I suppose that's whats usually to be expected from them

 

[stuartgil]

Yep those cheesy vids should have been the eye opener for me just seem to be the same vids for the last four or five years!! Trying to find as much information on Ncs as possible to see if I have a case at all?? Keeping my fingers crossed :/

 

[UNG]

Just seen it and the 2nd fix comment,all I can say is,oh dear

Towards the end,the massive skills shortage and the fantastic pay is mentioned

Oh and just to add, my old friends the Niceic,I notice they got their mention.
Mind you,I suppose that's whats usually to be expected from them

It makes me wonder what he thinks first fix is

 

[Sparkysoldman]

It makes me wonder what he thinks first fix is

and yet they can't be found on the NICEIC register as far as I can tell

 

[markc123]

It makes me wonder what he thinks first fix is

Probably getting out of bed in the morning....First Fix = get up, ignore the moaning hag next to you, get changed, have breakfast, get in van. Second Fix = arrive on site and crack on.....ahh the life of a Electrical Trainee.

 

[brightspark11]

I did the new career skills domestic installer course and to be fair to them it was a good course and did get me started in business. I have succeeded in joining the NICEIC and they provided me with work experience and ongoing support.

The catch is that I underestimated just how hard it would be to get started in business. I was prepared to live cheaply for a while, have a few customers not pay and learn by my mistakes etc etc. What I was not prepared for was not to be able to find any work at all most weeks. fortunately I was unemployed and getting benefits, the jobcentre allowed me to start a business and continue claiming but deducted earnings from the benefits each week, this was enough to keep me going for six months. after this I was forced to take paid employment in a factory. now I am only continuing in business on a part time basis because I paid up front for most of my expenses (insurance NICEIC membership, van costs etc). I will probably cease trading when these are up for renewal.

If anyone is thinking of starting out as a domestic installer I would recommend that they test the market to find out how much business they are likely to get. Place an advert in your local paper and see how many replies you get, sorry if you feel bad about doing this but if anyone replies you can tell them that you are too busy or have broken your leg etc. The advert will cost you a few pounds, this is worth it to test the market, compared to the course costs of a few thousand pounds plus the costs of starting the business plus the costs of maintaining yourself while the business gets started. Overall you are talking many thousands of pounds. My first weeks of advertising got no response at all from customers, only other advertisers. I tried leaflet distribution and a web site, again, with no successs. All the work seems to be going to established companies.

 

[ipf]

I did the new career skills domestic installer course and to be fair to them it was a good course and did get me started in business. I have succeeded in joining the NICEIC and they provided me with work experience and ongoing support.

The catch is that I underestimated just how hard it would be to get started in business. I was prepared to live cheaply for a while, have a few customers not pay and learn by my mistakes etc etc. What I was not prepared for was not to be able to find any work at all most weeks. fortunately I was unemployed and getting benefits, the jobcentre allowed me to start a business and continue claiming but deducted earnings from the benefits each week, this was enough to keep me going for six months. after this I was forced to take paid employment in a factory. now I am only continuing in business on a part time basis because I paid up front for most of my expenses (insurance NICEIC membership, van costs etc). I will probably cease trading when these are up for renewal.

If anyone is thinking of starting out as a domestic installer I would recommend that they test the market to find out how much business they are likely to get. Place an advert in your local paper and see how many replies you get, sorry if you feel bad about doing this but if anyone replies you can tell them that you are too busy or have broken your leg etc. The advert will cost you a few pounds, this is worth it to test the market, compared to the course costs of a few thousand pounds plus the costs of starting the business plus the costs of maintaining yourself while the business gets started. Overall you are talking many thousands of pounds. My first weeks of advertising got no response at all from customers, only other advertisers. I tried leaflet distribution and a web site, again, with no successs. All the work seems to be going to established companies.

A good example to take note of, I feel, for those planning a complete change without the experience, or correct qualifications, to call themselves electricians.