new reqs

[Farmelectrics]

has anyone pre ordered the new books yet and weres the cheapest place to get them was tempted to order mine on amazon £130 for the reqs,on site guide, gn3 your thoughts chaps

 

[Guest125]

Give me an alternative?

 

[davesparks]

Please answer me:

1) are building regs law?
2) do the refer to BS7671 as the installation standard to be followed?
My answer to both these questions is yes so if you fail to install to BS7671 you are breaking the law.

Does BS7671 allow deviations from its own rules to be made by skilled persons designing installations?

Funnily enough yes it does, so you can deviate from bs7671 and still comply with it!

 

[Farmelectrics]

Ignore the post ha ha

 

[telectrix]

Give me an alternative?

gas lamps.

 

[Guest125]

Does BS7671 allow deviations from its own rules to be made by skilled persons designing installations?

Funnily enough yes it does, so you can deviate from bs7671 and still comply with it!

and if you get it wrong what would a judge use to as their guidline. BS7671. So effectively stick to BS7671 and you cannot be wrong.

 

[Plonker 3]

and if you get it wrong what would a judge use to as their guidline. BS7671. So effectively stick to BS7671 and you cannot be wrong.

A judge would use nothing as a guideline until something is presented by either the prosecution or defence.

 

[Guest125]

A judge would use nothing as a guideline until something is presented by either the prosecution or defence.

This is ridiculous now.

 

[Plonker 3]

Biggest disclaimer of the day goes too BS7671

 

[Guest125]

Agreed but that protects them not us. It stops someone saying "but that is what it said to do". It is all balls but it is still law. Through the back door granted but still law.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Give me an alternative?

Certainly.
BS7671 requires that any addition or alteration before being put into use, should be inspected and tested, and appropriate certification issued.
Failure to conduct inspection, testing and issuing the appropriate certification would not necessarily impair the safety of the installation, however the work would not comply with BS7671.

 

[davesparks]

and if you get it wrong what would a judge use to as their guidline. BS7671. So effectively stick to BS7671 and you cannot be wrong.

The electricity at work regulations, along with bs7671 and all other relevant BS documents and expert advisors/witnesses.

There are many many installations and areas of the industry where all sorts of other rules take precedence over bs7671.

Bs7671 is not the be all and end all of electrical installations and safety, it is but one standard we have to consider when working.

Personally I have to deal with bs7909 in one of the sectors of the industry I work in.

 

[Farmelectrics]

What is bs 7909 what line of work

 

[spark 68]

This is ridiculous now.

You have a lot to learn young Jedi :beatnik2:, listen to your uncle Spin, and uncle Dilib, lol, they are correct, if you actually listened to what they are saying, and not what you "think" they are saying, then you might just learn something.

 

[davesparks]

What is bs 7909 what line of work

Bs7909-2011 The Code of Practice for the creation and operation of Temporary Electrical Systems for Entertainment and Related Purposes.

That line of work is temporary supply and distribution for festivals/outdoor events/theatre etc etc

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The term 'deviation' is not something used by BS7671.
A departure is something that doesn't comply with the requirements of BS7671 is, but which the designer must attest provides the same degree of safety as would be achieved by compliance with BS7671.
A non-compliance or defect is something that would either require rectification before an EIC or MIEWC is issued, or would require (if dangerous or potentially dangerous) being commented upon in an EICR.