New road tax system

[Geordie Spark]

Very expensive specialist job to print tax discs.
I wonder what they'll blow the money they saved on.

Helping the victims of the floods, but it's more likely to be already winging its way to some tin-pot dictator's Swiss Bank account.

 

[ruston]

But the moment you hand over the cash for the car you have travelled 100 miles to buy is technically not taxed , although the paper work is not through you are still breaking the law driving it. Right?

 

[GMES]

But the moment you hand over the cash for the car you have travelled 100 miles to buy is technically not taxed , although the paper work is not through you are still breaking the law driving it. Right?

This was my point I have technically been driving for a month with no road tax ( not intentially obviously ) and nothing as happened. I am curious now though whether I will get a full 6 months or whether I will lose a month due to the late payment.

 

[hightower]

This was my point I have technically been driving for a month with no road tax ( not intentially obviously ) and nothing as happened. I am curious now though whether I will get a full 6 months or whether I will lose a month due to the late payment.

The thing that gets me is its supposedly a modern system but we still work in months. If I buy a car on the 25th I will have to pay a months tax for 5 days motoring which is wrong. There's no reason our new system shouldn't be able to handle everyone's months starting on different days.

 

[snowhead]

This was my point I have technically been driving for a month with no road tax ( not intentially obviously ) and nothing as happened. I am curious now though whether I will get a full 6 months or whether I will lose a month due to the late payment.

The new tax period will start from when the old one expired.

You can't be fined until the start of the next month, (you never could be) as you may pay up on the last day.

Previously you would have been fined for Failure to display, but that can't happen anymore.

 

[GMES]

Cheers Snowhead.

 

[snowhead]

You can opt for an email acknowledgement of payment as you always could with Online.
Comes like this; (but with numbers on it..)


Confirmation of vehicle tax.

Thank you for using DVLA Vehicle Licensing Online.
Your application for vehicle tax has been successful.

Vehicle Registration Number:
Reference Number:
Application Made On: 10/10/2015 09:07:50
Vehicle Tax Period: 12 months
Vehicle Tax Amount Paid: GBP 290.00
Last 4 Digits of Payment Card:

The law has changed, you do not need to display a tax disc, therefore we will not issue one to you.

You may wish to save or print this email confirmation for your record

 

[Deleted member 72666]

The thing that gets me is its supposedly a modern system but we still work in months. If I buy a car on the 25th I will have to pay a months tax for 5 days motoring which is wrong. There's no reason our new system shouldn't be able to handle everyone's months starting on different days.

The way I understand it is, if you buy a car say in the middle of the month that hasn't been sorned ie still taxed then the new owner wont need to pay for the road fund licence for that month as technically the vehicle is still taxed, meanwhile the previous owner can only claim for full months that remain and not any part months.
I may be wrong of course, but my apprentice recently purchased a car with a week's still left to run and was unable to purchase any road tax until the following month. It makes perfect sense to me.

 

[hightower]

The way I understand it is, if you buy a car say in the middle of the month that hasn't been sorned ie still taxed then the new owner wont need to pay for the road fund licence for that month as technically the vehicle is still taxed, meanwhile the previous owner can only claim for full months that remain and not any part months.
I may be wrong of course, but my apprentice recently purchased a car with a week's still left to run and was unable to purchase any road tax until the following month. It makes perfect sense to me.

I was of the understanding the vehicle is untaxed the second the keys change hands and therefore needs taxing before driving away

Just looked here and you definitely have to buy tax before driving (as in you won't get the remainder of the month as your apprentice thought)
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-tax-changes

 

[Deleted member 72666]

I was off the understanding the vehicle is untaxed the second the keys change hands and therefore needs taxing before driving away

But the dvla/vosa don't yet know that the vehicle has changed hands therefore you'll be unable to tax it again during a 'taxed month'.

 

[hightower]

But the dvla/vosa don't yet know that the vehicle has changed hands therefore you'll be unable to tax it again during a 'taxed month'.

When you phone/go online you select the option for new keeper and you can tax it. I know because I did this when I bought I my van earlier in the year. Is bought it on the 22nd and was able to tax it

 

[Deleted member 72666]

When you phone/go online you select the option for new keeper and you can tax it. I know because I did this when I bought I my van earlier in the year. Is bought it on the 22nd and was able to tax it

Then may be my apprentice may have taken a different approach, I'll ask him when I go back to work.

 

[andyb]

Mods,

This thread should be merged with another thread.

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...ical-forum/107476-we-just-nation-moaners.html

 

[Barrie Patrick]

So I Receive a reminder yesterday telling me both the vans were due at the beginning of December and this is my last chance to pay before I presume I get fined. My question is have I missed the original letter or do they not remind you now when it is due, Are we now expected to remember when it's due for renewal. Also how come if it was due at the beginning that they have allowed until the end of december without a fine.

I miss the tax disc already, it was much easier having a constant reminder in the windscreen.

Just set up a monthly direct debit, I pay £12.25 on the 1st of each month and all I got as a reminder was an e-mail tellingme that unless I went on line and cancelled it they would continue to take the direct debit for the next 12 months EASY-PEASY ;-)

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The new system is supposed to prevent someone purchasing a taxed vehicle and driving it uninsured.
From what I understand, for the first month, the ANPR system does not automatically pick up vehicles whose tax has run out, although if anyone manually checks the vehicle, it will come up as being untaxed.
When a vehicle is purchased it will show on the system as being taxed, until the paperwork is processed. As soon as the paperwork is processed, it will show as being untaxed from the date of purchase.
If the vehicle is purchased in the middle of a month, the new keeper will have to pay from the beginning of that month, and the old keeper will receive a refund from the end of that month. The Government will make an extra month of tax.
However it is possible for the new keeper to pay from the beginning of the next month, though the system will show that the new keeper should have paid from the beginning of the previous month. It is then up to someone at DVLA to decide whether a fine should be issued
If you do not receive a tax/sorn reminder and a fine is issued, the DVLA will inform you that it is not their responsibility if you do not receive it.
By the same token, if you pop £80 cash into an envelope to pay the fine and DVLA do not receive it, it's not your responsibility if DVLA do not receive it.