New Single Module AFDD from Wylex is Launched

[ashrow]

Just saw this

I know loads of people say they do not work etc etc but it is good to see a single module.
I think i am going to get one and try it out

 

[Dustydazzler]

I'd wager R&D teams at all the MFT manufacturers are on the case developing the next generation testers that will incorporate arc fault simulation. Like on this test board, but incorporated into an MFT.
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This is true, although cost could be minimised by fitting them just on radials >=32A for starters. In many installations this would just mean a couple of AFDDs (cooker and shower). That will give the biggest bang for your customer's buck.

Speaking to someone at a trade show about afdds they are not suitable for use on ring circuits so would exclusively be limited to radials. In America they are predominantly used on light load power circuits.
I wonder if this could also signify the end of the rfc ?

 

[DPG]

Speaking to someone at a trade show about afdds they are not suitable for use on ring circuits so would exclusively be limited to radials. In America they are predominantly used on light load power circuits.
I wonder if this could also signify the end of the rfc ?

I thought this had been proved to be false? I'm pretty sure they can detect faults on RFCs.

 

[Zerax]

Where's Lucien Nunes ?

 

[Midwest]

Speaking to someone at a trade show about afdds they are not suitable for use on ring circuits so would exclusively be limited to radials. In America they are predominantly used on light load power circuits.
I wonder if this could also signify the end of the rfc ?

Whilst they won’t detect faults on one leg of RFC, it will still detect faults on appliances connected to it. That’s what I’ve read.

 

[Deleted member 105166]

Whilst they won’t detect faults on one leg of RFC, it will still detect faults on appliances connected to it. That’s what I’ve read.

...and any spurs

 

[freddo]

. Like on this test board,...

That tripped so fast, far faster than I would expect to be appropriate.

 

[ashrow]

Got a reply from my wholesaler....... best price was £125 plus VAT listed price was around £195 before discount

 

[freddo]

Got a reply from my wholesaler....... best price was £125 plus VAT listed price was around £195 before discount

Few people have that sort of money to spare. Certainly out of my price range, even if I was installing them in my own house.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Let’s just say after some haggling that’s £150 a pop , so on a 10 circuit board change materials around 1700 quid + labour + certs = 2500 quid ish

That’s a lot of money for a basic board swap

 

[ashrow]

Let’s just say after some haggling that’s £150 a pop , so on a 10 circuit board change materials around 1700 quid + labour + certs = 2500 quid ish

That’s a lot of money for a basic board swap

I do board changes now with rcbo's and do not charge more then £400-£500 i could not see any of my clients spending £1500 plus.....its hard enough getting them to have a surge protection

 

[Dustydazzler]

I do board changes now with rcbo's and do not charge more then £400-£500 i could not see any of my clients spending £1500 plus.....its hard enough getting them to have a surge protection

That’s my point , getting a home owner to part with 2 grand for a basic board swap will be pretty tricky especially when arc Fault devices are still pretty much unproven in the u.k

Most customers give me a funny look when I tell them it’s £200 for surge protection

 

[happysteve]

Let’s just say after some haggling that’s £150 a pop , so on a 10 circuit board change materials around 1700 quid + labour + certs = 2500 quid ish

£800 for labour for a board swap? Gosh!

 

[Dustydazzler]

£800 for labour for a board swap? Gosh!

What can I say , a Bentley is expensive to own

 

[Robson689]

Most customers give me a funny look when I tell them it’s £200 for surge protection

Probably cause you can get them for 50 quid or 65 with enclosure & isolator

 

[ashrow]

i did not state that, someone else posted that