NICEIC, NAPIT or ELECSA

[DaveyD]

The 2391... I believe that the schemes will soon be requiring Level 3 qualifications or that you are taking them, for full scope membership.

Yes, NAPIT already do. If you havent got it but have the others they give you one year to obtain

 

[Welchyboy]

For what its worth I joined Elecsa. The joining process was very thorough and if your not up to scratch they will soon know about it.

I have never even heard of anyone coming close to failing an elecsa asssessment, I thought the assessment was a bit of a joke to be honest with you, and can easily see why people consider it the 'easy option'

 

[MDJ]

I suppose it depends on what your customers require really, if you work for local authorities then they tend to insist you are a member of the NICEIC, some want more than that as well, however if not as mentioned in an earlier post, I personally and it may be just my view, all other regulators/governing bodies are very similar and to be honest private customers probably don't care either way providing you give them a certificate.

 

[imago]

and can easily see why people consider it the 'easy option'

What, joining ELECSA or getting registered to self cert under part 'P'? None of them check what they should, none of them enforce anything, and none of them are in any way interested in anything beyond revenue generation.

 

[D E P Northeast]

i really need to get my elecsa but 2 problems 1 ive not go the cash 2 i cant get too jobs to show them cause over my way everyone asks to see your quals and reg

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i really need to get my elecsa but 2 problems 1 ive not go the cash 2 i cant get too jobs to show them cause over my way everyone asks to see your quals and reg

 

[Welchyboy]

i really need to get my elecsa but 2 problems 1 ive not go the cash 2 i cant get too jobs to show them cause over my way everyone asks to see your quals and reg

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i really need to get my elecsa but 2 problems 1 ive not go the cash 2 i cant get too jobs to show them cause over my way everyone asks to see your quals and reg

If you haven't got the cash for that how on earth do you propose to run a business???

 

[shazbutz]

I understood that the assessor as well as putting you through the hoops in terms of knowledge, procedures and the practical review of your work also looked at previous EICs. Specifically to ensure that notifiable work had actually been notified. Quote from ELECSA "how to avoid common Part P assessment issues" - " On surveillance visits all work undertaken during the previous 12 months will be checked to ensure that work which is notifiable, has been notified".

I'm interested because the costs of getting BC in in this area are in excess of £220 which is prohibitively expensive to load on to the small notifiable jobs resulting in working for nothing. Many customers are not in the slightest bit interested in certification which is worrying and will happily accept a none scheme EIC and schedule of test results. Not Part P compliant but the customer is happy and the job will stand electrical scrutiny. Being brutally honest i think that there are many out there just doing this and I wonder how an assessor would respond should they see a shed load of EIC that have not been notified once the sparky has applied to join the scheme?

 

[Dave 85]

I understood that the assessor as well as putting you through the hoops in terms of knowledge, procedures and the practical review of your work also looked at previous EICs. Specifically to ensure that notifiable work had actually been notified. Quote from ELECSA "how to avoid common Part P assessment issues" - " On surveillance visits all work undertaken during the previous 12 months will be checked to ensure that work which is notifiable, has been notified".

I'm interested because the costs of getting BC in in this area are in excess of £220 which is prohibitively expensive to load on to the small notifiable jobs resulting in working for nothing. Many customers are not in the slightest bit interested in certification which is worrying and will happily accept a none scheme EIC and schedule of test results. Not Part P compliant but the customer is happy and the job will stand electrical scrutiny. Being brutally honest i think that there are many out there just doing this and I wonder how an assessor would respond should they see a shed load of EIC that have not been notified once the sparky has applied to join the scheme?

Well if its your first assessment you only show em the cert for the assessment job/s and tell em its not notified which is why you are have the bleeding assessment. If its not your first assessment you just show em the certs for the jobs you notified and not the ones you haven't...simples. They just want your money at the end of the day

 

[harrod58]

any...their all as bad as each other....

Ha Ha true! Especially NICEIC