Stroma Certification Scheme NICEIC prices going up, thinking of going with stroma.

[Welchyboy1]

I moved over to stroma, well worth it!

 

[Welchyboy1]

I have no issues with Stroma's service. It does what it is supposed to.
I wouldn't recommend using the third party service. Why would you want to actively enable others to do you out of possible work ?

do not ask for third party registration, why would you?

 

[a-z electrics]

I moved to Stroma from Elecsa about 3 yrs ago.. no regrets and Ive saved about £750 over that time. Assessors have been real nice and understanding and helpful to me..

 

[andysparkfree]

Good afternoon Sham

worth checking cost of the insurance, as having just done this for a friend, seems you need additional cover to undertake periodic inspections and to 3rd party certificate
I found the costs only a little under the NICEIC costs ( specially once you add TrustMark )

Good Luck

 

[Toneyz]

Don’t really understand why the LBC building inspectors sign off on the structural stuff but stay clear of electrics? Unless there were specific grounds to suspect a dangerous installation I would politely tell a council official to ‘f’ off if they turned up at my house to check the wiring.

I think that you have answered it by saying building inspector and anything that has a constructional element. Ok, they may know the basics but they haven't had the electrical training that's why all these schemes have sprung up and they would not be able to cope with all the inspections if they did not exist.

 

[Starjack]

Being older and semi-retired I take pleasure in assisting and enabling people to do their own work and I am more than happy for them to do the grunt work. I feel like more using my brains than brawn nowadays. I daren't say anything about NICEIC except nice things but can't find anything nice to say so I will shut up

Don't be a little sheep, speak your mind, what's the worse that can happen.

 

[Starjack]

They have taken action where people have fraudulently used the NIC logo.

And rightfully so. If someone masqueraded as you wouldn't you prosecute them.

 

[Toneyz]

The only reason the NICEIC is known is the publicity they do they always have a large stand at these trade shows, stickers for members vans, technical talks, video's online, technical publications in magazines, some F.O.C. (pocket guides) etc etc. NAPIT do a bit more now eg their codebreaker book. As for joining a scheme, I would go with the cheapest as the only reason for domestic works is to do the building compliance.

 

[Starjack]

The only reason the NICEIC is known is the publicity they do they always have a large stand at these trade shows, stickers for members vans, technical talks, video's online, technical publications in magazines, some F.O.C. (pocket guides) etc etc. NAPIT do a bit more now eg their codebreaker book. As for joining a scheme, I would go with the cheapest as the only reason for domestic works is to do the building compliance.

So surely they are doing things right and are successful at what they do, can't knock them for that.

 

[sparksfly]

A builder friend of mine who who primary does works for insurance companies,can ONLY use NICEIC registered electricians, he very rarely comes across an insurance company that will allow other scheme member electricians complete their work as they don’t “approve” their schemes.

Disagree here....Probably NIC have been entertaining insurance companies for years. I have done insurance work for builders in the past and just ignored NICEIC only statements and signed my work off , no problems at all. NIC seem to be good at promoting themselves....they are, after all, self-regulatory. Oh ...had a good one last year , installed a Howdens Lamona oven ....manufacturers instructions said" We strongly recommend the appliance is connected by a qualified electrican who is a member of the N.I.C.E.I.C who will comply with the I.E.E and any local regulations." ...I stopped....laughed a bit, installed and certified it. Dont get me wrong , I like some of their guides/publications, safety info...but getting in bed with manufacturers, IET, insurance companies, house builders to promote the brand is a little elbows out, don't you think..
Now, what would the French do?... not renew any of their memberships, tear up their own certificates, drink some wine and stop....slowly watching it all fall apart.....mmmmm

 

[Toneyz]

So surely they are doing things right and are successful at what they do, can't knock them for that.

I wasn't ( I usually get accused of the opposite by Pete) albeit only because I used to be a Q.S/PDH and only have acquaintance with them I was pointing out why they seem to be the only Scheme provider that is known and the reasons why.

 

[Toneyz]

Disagree here....Probably NIC have been entertaining insurance companies for years. I have done insurance work for builders in the past and just ignored NICEIC only statements and signed my work off , no problems at all. NIC seem to be good at promoting themselves....they are, after all, self-regulatory. Oh ...had a good one last year , installed a Howdens Lamona oven ....manufacturers instructions said" We strongly recommend the appliance is connected by a qualified electrican who is a member of the N.I.C.E.I.C who will comply with the I.E.E and any local regulations." ...I stopped....laughed a bit, installed and certified it. Dont get me wrong , I like some of their guides/publications, safety info...but getting in bed with manufacturers, IET, insurance companies, house builders to promote the brand is a little elbows out, don't you think..
Now, what would the French do?... not renew any of their memberships, tear up their own certificates, drink some wine and stop....slowly watching it all fall apart.....mmmmm

I noticed a big change in this direction around the time of the Part P and the domestic installer schemes before that was only the Approved contractor's scheme and they were very regulative.

 

[The Ghost]

what's the worse that can happen.

You?

 

[Toneyz]

You?

To be fair he has toned down and contributed to a few posts
but he hasn't started at a good point with members.

 

[Toneyz]

To be fair he has toned down and contributed to a few posts
but he hasn't started at a good point with members.

Which bit did you agree with Vort the positive bit or negative bit about him?

 

[Starjack]

You?

Oh come on now, I've been a sweetheart lately.

 

[Starjack]

To be fair he has toned down and contributed to a few posts
but he hasn't started at a good point with members.

All for you Tony.....and Snoop.

 

[The Ghost]

Which bit did you agree

Both.

 

[Starjack]

Both.

You know I'm your guilty pleasure, really.

 

[The Ghost]

I will say this, it is clear to me that one man operations such as mine and others here tend to go for other than NICEIC. However some who run larger companies run with NICEIC which I think is an obvious no brainer for a larger company with employees and wanting to get work obviously. The cost implication has a lot to do with that as a larger company can absorb the cost as it is relatively fractional compared to turnover. However a sole trader getting hit with the cost of NICEIC at a bad time can be a significant impact. No doubt about it if I was a large company I would go for NICEIC. And by the way I did actually join them at one point but for me it just does not make financial sense. I get plenty of work or at least enough for me scheme or no scheme.

 

[Toneyz]

All for you Tony.....and Snoop.

I prefer you to call me Anthony and I'm sure we will get on fine.

 

[Toneyz]

I will say this, it is clear to me that one man operations such as mine and others here tend to go for other than NICEIC. However some who run larger companies run with NICEIC which I think is an obvious no brainer for a larger company with employees and wanting to get work obviously. The cost implication has a lot to do with that as a larger company can absorb the cost as it is relatively fractional compared to turnover. However a sole trader getting hit with the cost of NICEIC at a bad time can be a significant impact. No doubt about it if I was a large company I would go for NICEIC. And by the way I did actually join them at one point but for me it just does not make financial sense. I get plenty of work or at least enough for me scheme or no scheme.

So its one cost fits all and the same amount of one-day assessments is this the same with all schemes?

 

[Starjack]

I prefer you to call me Anthony and I'm sure we will get on fine.

Oh and I was just warning to you until you said that.
What's up is Tony to common for oneself.

 

[Toneyz]

Oh and I was just warning to you until you said that.
What's up is Tony to common for oneself.

No, I've always been called Anthony or Ant as you called me in another post So why Starjack?