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The NICEIC have never told me not to use my own certificates that I buy a disc off eBay. They have asked why I don't use their certificates which work out about £1 each I believe mine cost £20 till they change again.
 
They should scrap all the schemes and put the onus on the home owner to pay the LBC fees and notifications and fine them if they don’t notify.
 
I have no issues with Stroma's service. It does what it is supposed to.
I wouldn't recommend using the third party service. Why would you want to actively enable others to do you out of possible work ?
 
In the grand scheme of business overheads it's jack. Premises and vehicles far more significant, so I'd rather stick with a more recognised brand.
In domestics, customers do not really care in my experience. They have no idea of schemes and building notifications, or they do not care.
They should scrap all the schemes and put the onus on the home owner to pay the LBC fees and notifications and fine them if they don’t notify.
I was thinking of creating a petition for what you said. The LBC can select properties they can inspect by contacting owner. great idea. scrap all scam schemes.
 
I don’t really get the mentality to be honest, being part of a scheme is a necessary overhead for many of us.

Being part of Stroma your overhead will be about £1.18 a day

Being an NICEIC approved contractor your overhead will be about £2.05 a day

Difference being 87 pence a day. 87 pence a day difference, to be apart of the most recognized scheme is a know brainer for me especially as it generally generates work. I picked up a 17K rewire last year where the customer found my contact details from the NICEIC website. I’ve never had a builder or developer ask if I’m part P, Stroma, NAPIT etc they always ask “are you NICEIC registered”. Being part of a scheme shouldn’t be costing you anything as it should be included in your business overheads....I very much doubt you would ever loose a job being 87 pence a day more expensive.
 
I don’t really get the mentality to be honest, being part of a scheme is a necessary overhead for many of us.

Being part of Stroma your overhead will be about £1.18 a day

Being an NICEIC approved contractor your overhead will be about £2.05 a day

Difference being 87 pence a day. 87 pence a day difference, to be apart of the most recognized scheme is a know brainer for me especially as it generally generates work. I picked up a 17K rewire last year where the customer found my contact details from the NICEIC website. I’ve never had a builder or developer ask if I’m part P, Stroma, NAPIT etc they always ask “are you NICEIC registered”. Being part of a scheme shouldn’t be costing you anything as it should be included in your business overheads....I very much doubt you would ever loose a job being 87 pence a day more expensive.
Good point, I forgot, I got some work, that way as well. Contractors and housing agencies still ask for NICEIC contractors.
 
Just looking up the fees for starting out, unless I'm mistaken :
Stroma first year £255 + vat
Nice Guys first year £890 + vat
The Nic initial assessment doubles the cost in the first year. Sorry to say that's a hurdle for me.
 
I went from the NICEIC to stroma to save money and regretted it. The guy that assessed me was a nightmare and was all over the place giving me misleading information. I appreciate that they are all not like that but I would have refused for him to assess me again (long story - he did pass me).

Their member support is dreadful as I was constantly having to chase them up as customers weren't getting their certs, and despite raising this with a manager many times, it just continued time and time again to the point my customers thought I was bull s**ting them.

Never once had to chase the NICEIC up for a cert, and I have always found their assessors decent. If being critical one assesor over 10 years ago was a little jobs worth but was still okay.

Despite how much people moan about the NICIEC, they are highly regarded by companies and I've only ever had customers ask me if I am an NiCEIC electrician (their words).

The money I saved going with stroma wasn't worth the hassle it caused me. I fully accept some people think stroma are fine, but I can only give my opinion/experience.
 
In domestics, customers do not really care in my experience. They have no idea of schemes and building notifications, or they do not care.

I was thinking of creating a petition for what you said. The LBC can select properties they can inspect by contacting owner. great idea. scrap all scam schemes.
Don’t really understand why the LBC building inspectors sign off on the structural stuff but stay clear of electrics? Unless there were specific grounds to suspect a dangerous installation I would politely tell a council official to ‘f’ off if they turned up at my house to check the wiring.
 
Why would you want to actively enable others
Being older and semi-retired I take pleasure in assisting and enabling people to do their own work and I am more than happy for them to do the grunt work. I feel like more using my brains than brawn nowadays. I daren't say anything about NICEIC except nice things but can't find anything nice to say so I will shut up:cool:
 
Niceic is the only one that is easily recognisable to customers. Majority of companies I've worked for request niceic. That work alone makes up the difference in price and more. Most people except sparks have never head of the others
 
When i joined the niceic the joining fee covered the 1st years fees. At time i was expecting to get another invoice for 1st years fees, it never came!!?
I also got a £50 discount as when my mate joined elecsa he jad done his 2394/5 at ts4u and quoting that got the discount so i did same and saved £50...
No questions asked. Believe it only works when joining.
A 10 quid increase is nothing much. Spend that in 2 days on coffee.
 

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