NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC Three Part Certificate

[Plonker 3]

No idea, was before the days of online certs that I last saw one.

 

[uksparks]

Ill call them on Monday and clear this up, if I cant do it that's fine, its no loss to me, just would be nice that's all.

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Enjoy your weekend.

 

[MDJ]

What difference is there between part p work and new builds which both come under LABC before being passed as fit for use so to speak. Just both notified slightly differently.

Just replying to the OP fella and saying it as it is, as for your question-no idea except all sparks should give certificates for new work whether it needs notifying or not.

 

[guest119]

Not too sure how you do it, but I can't see a problem with it, as long as you get someone else to sign off the design and installation sections of the cert.

Murdoch, imagine a large project which is designed externally the over seen by a clerk of works before finally being tested by the main electrical contractor. This is no different. Just because it's only on a small scale doesn't make it any different.

It is totally different.
In your example the main electrical contractor would be testing HIS OWN work.
then the test results would be used to verify the consultants design.

Boydy

 

[Plonker 3]

So why 3 signatures and not 2 then?

 

[rattlehead85]

Using the NICEIC software allows you to compile an EIC which requires a signature in more than one box which does NOT have to be the same person. Where your problem arises is where the cert requires a reg number to be entered. The signatures all would need to be operatives of the company who's reg number is used so if you only sign the testing box you still indirectly are partially responsible for what the cert represents. If something went wrong and the cert was used as evidence in a court of law you would be equally as responsible for the content if the cert as the person/s who have signed the design and construction boxes.

 

[Sintra]

Ok great, that means you can probably do them online too then.

As far as I am aware the NICEIC 3 signature cert is only available to those with approved contractor status.

 

[ImpededLoop]

I think that's true.

As I understand it, the 3 part sign off is usually used on larger projects.

The designer may well be a consultant.

The installer would be the lead electrician from your company who oversees the install.

The test engineer is also from your company, but may be a different person from the installer. Some companies have guys that just do the testing.

 

[Brightspark2]

As far as I am aware the NICEIC 3 signature cert is only available to those with approved contractor status.

Must be, because it comes up on my available certificates...

On approved contractor certificates..

 

[uksparks]

Maybe yes, we'll I'm upgrading shortly, I'll perhaps have a chat with them and see. I take onboard your comment about indirect involvement through one reg number.

maybe I'll just offer him an EICR and see what he says.

 

[MDJ]

I do not want to sign off others work, I want a three part certificate so I can split it so I only sign the testing.

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Sorry fella you have lost me with this comment?

 

[uksparks]

Can I ask then, what is the point in a multi signature certificate then? Surely its so that each person takes responsibility for their bit? As said earlier, I am not looking to sign someone else's work off. I want to know if I can sign to say it tests out ok, and the others accept liability for the installation.

 

[telectrix]

to cover your arse, do as you suggested and offer to do an EICR.

 

[Octopus]

A multi part signature is aimed at commercial operations, so for different people within 1 business.

Part P is all about SELF CERTIFICATION where the single signatory holds responsibility for all aspects of the design and install

 

[guest119]

Can I ask then, what is the point in a multi signature certificate then? Surely its so that each person takes responsibility for their bit? As said earlier, I am not looking to sign someone else's work off. I want to know if I can sign to say it tests out ok, and the others accept liability for the installation.

Have you read posts 21,23,29?

Boydy