Nissan Leaf 22kw granny charger?

RDB85

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<div class="bbWrapper">My Dad is picking up a Nissan Leaf. He is planning to charge it using the granny charger as we have a socket in the porch. Can anyone recommend a decent fast charger and what would I need to install one?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Sounds like the sort of thing you&#039;d need to get someone in to do, as at 240v that&#039;s 91.7 amps, most household power supply main fuses are 100 amps (some 80 amps/some 63 amps) so it&#039;s probably not a good idea to try and tap that sort of power off your consumer unit. Calculations based on UK figures.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Its not going to charge at 22KW from a home A/C charger. To choose a charger check the model type of the Leaf, i.e. how old is it, check the max charge rate for the on board charger on A/C single phase, could be 6-7KW. Then check which connector you will need, not familiar with Leafs but a quick call to Zappi would help to identify the right charger lead and any convertors needed. Then get someone to install it.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">If you&#039;re planning on using the &quot;Granny Cable&quot; from the socket in the porch... I would recommend that you have it checked out by an electrician to make sure it&#039;s up to the job. Whilst it will be rated for 13 Amps, which is higher than the, say 10 Amps max that your &quot;Granny Cable&quot; will allow... it&#039;s drawing that current for a long time... so it might overheat and cause a fire somewhere. I think (you should check) that a genuine Nissan cable has a temperature probe built into the plug, that will stop charging if the plug gets too warm... but it won&#039;t be able to pickup the temperature elsewhere in your wiring installation.<br /> <br /> Maybe ask the electrician who comes round to quote for a proper EV charge point ??</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">First thing is how old is this leaf?<br /> Does it have type 1 or type 2 connector as this will determine which type of tethered charger you can go for or if untethered it makes no odds. As all are type 2 to type 1/2 other end of leas.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 101583" data-quote="Gavin John Hyde" data-source="post: 1746514" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=1746514" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1746514">Gavin John Hyde said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> First thing is how old is this leaf?<br /> Does it have type 1 or type 2 connector as this will determine which type of tethered charger you can go for or if untethered it makes no odds. As all are type 2 to type 1/2 other end of leas. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> It’s a 2015 24kw<br /> <br /> All information on it is here: <br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="45244" data-url="https://ev-database.uk/car/1019/Nissan-Leaf-24-kWh" data-host="ev-database.uk" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fev-database.org%2Fimg%2Fauto%2FNissan_Leaf%2FNissan_Leaf-01%402x.jpg&amp;hash=52ce56b747a76aeae12ca289907ed81a&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="ev-database.uk" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://ev-database.uk/car/1019/Nissan-Leaf-24-kWh" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-proxy-href="/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Fev-database.uk%2Fcar%2F1019%2FNissan-Leaf-24-kWh&amp;hash=957e7807266b923fba2dd14ad9457d16"> Nissan Leaf 24 kWh </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">All details and specs of the Nissan Leaf 24 kWh (2015-2018). Compare price, lease, real-world range and consumption of every electric vehicle.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fev-database.uk%2Ffavicon-32x32.png&amp;hash=08b3bfaacbde763f477a2060ae7f9d2c&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="ev-database.uk" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> ev-database.uk </div> </div> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Type 1 charger lead then, so if fittings a charger as per your other thread/post I would go for untethered, this way you future proof the charger for other vehicles. if you fit a type 1 tethered lead it will only work with older cars.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">My Dad has been getting on great with his Leaf. But was wondering if he could buy a suitable extension lead? As the cable is out of the porch window.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">If he&#039;s happy with the granny charger, then fit a 13A switch socket, suitable for outside use, near where the car is parked. Needs to be the type of socket that maintains its IP rating when a plug and lead is plugged in.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 99413" data-quote="brianmoooore" data-source="post: 1779634" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=1779634" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1779634">brianmoooore said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If he&#039;s happy with the granny charger, then fit a 13A switch socket, suitable for outside use, near where the car is parked. Needs to be the type of socket that maintains its IP rating when a plug and lead is plugged in. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I don’t think I would be able to do that. I have seen these extension leads:<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="51416" data-url="https://toughleads.co.uk/products/ev-extension-lead?variant=19514035929176" data-host="toughleads.co.uk" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Ftoughleads.co.uk%2Fcdn%2Fshop%2Ffiles%2FIMG_1598_clipped_rev_1_b13e9a29-731e-4de8-854a-3aaf21872730_1024x1024.jpg%3Fv%3D1699554175&amp;hash=9f9cfd40c3ef5ea59de757e9667fbe89&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="toughleads.co.uk" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://toughleads.co.uk/products/ev-extension-lead?variant=19514035929176" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-proxy-href="/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Ftoughleads.co.uk%2Fproducts%2Fev-extension-lead%3Fvariant%3D19514035929176&amp;hash=6e7563159eb61bd485562af6d4f78bee"> EV granny charger 13A weatherproof extension lead </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">High quality 13A weatherproof outdoor waterproof extension leads heavy duty 1.5mm H07RN-F rubber cable. RCD option. IP66. Designed specifically to overcome the issue created by chunkier plugs on electric vehicles (EVs). 2m, 5m, 10m, 15m, 20m and 25m lengths.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Ftoughleads.co.uk%2Fcdn%2Fshop%2Ft%2F5%2Fassets%2Ffavicon.ico%3Fv%3D19548003191856330831480351264&amp;hash=d373509472af2182cf178637216b5b96&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="toughleads.co.uk" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> toughleads.co.uk </div> </div> </div> </div></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Depends how exposed the location is, but these are one of the best: <a href="https://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-ip66-13a-1-gang-dp-weatherproof-outdoor-switched-socket/30703" target="_blank" class="link link--external" data-proxy-href="/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.screwfix.com%2Fp%2Fmk-ip66-13a-1-gang-dp-weatherproof-outdoor-switched-socket%2F30703&amp;hash=5fe661466b04f0c53876cf4164ec7aa2" rel="noopener">MK IP66 13A 1-Gang DP Weatherproof Outdoor Switched Socket - https://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-ip66-13a-1-gang-dp-weatherproof-outdoor-switched-socket/30703</a><br /> Note the circuit MUST be 30mA RCD protected.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">A &quot;socket&quot; for a car charger needs to be on a dedicated circuit (reg 722.311) and 30mA RCD protected. Type A or better (reg 722.531.2.101), mode 2 chargers (Granny adapters) are included in this if it&#039;s a permanent arrangement, the inline controller may provide the RCD protection required. An existing external socket is very unlikely to be on it&#039;s own circuit</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 105596" data-quote="RDB85" data-source="post: 1745266" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=1745266" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1745266">RDB85 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My Dad is picking up a Nissan Leaf. He is planning to charge it using the granny charger as we have a socket in the porch. Can anyone recommend a decent fast charger and what would I need to install one? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What happened in the end mate? Has he still got it I wonder?</div>
 

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