No earthing on lighting circuit

[KevinH]

Hi all, I've been asked to make an old 4 story townhouse "safe" and issue cert for renting out.
Hasn't been touched for so long it has bakerlite accessories with wood backing!
Straight away I'm seeing replace all accessories, replace CU, upgrade earthing. The wiring is all in PVC cables but typical no earthing on lighting circuits.
I hear you all scream "REWIRE"!
Problem is property is highly decorated and furnished and owners would rather not go down that route.
My question is, if I fit all plastic accessories throughout, and clearly state on CU and cert NOT to fit any metallic fittings. Can I get away with that?
Just asking as whenever I've come across this problem in past, I've always rewired lighting so bit unsure what complies.
By the way, I've done quick IR, ring loop tests, Ze etc and all ok, but how do you R1+R2 lighting with no earth?

 

[Harry_P]

Hi all, I've been asked to make an old 4 story townhouse "safe" and issue cert for renting out.
Hasn't been touched for so long it has bakerlite accessories with wood backing!
Straight away I'm seeing replace all accessories, replace CU, upgrade earthing. The wiring is all in PVC cables but typical no earthing on lighting circuits.
I hear you all scream "REWIRE"!
Problem is property is highly decorated and furnished and owners would rather not go down that route.
My question is, if I fit all plastic accessories throughout, and clearly state on CU and cert NOT to fit any metallic fittings. Can I get away with that?
Just asking as whenever I've come across this problem in past, I've always rewired lighting so bit unsure what complies.
By the way, I've done quick IR, ring loop tests, Ze etc and all ok, but how do you R1+R2 lighting with no earth?

Personally I would be advising that if you want it making safe then there is going to be some rewiring needed,the place may be decorated but that's not your problem, you have been asked to make it safe and I wouldn't feel like I have made it safe by installing fittings with no earth.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Makes sense that someone has started knocking them out.

What a pity they didn't run a spell checker over the text before going into production

 

[Andy78]

What a pity they didn't run a spell checker over the text before going into production

Maybe the printer had a lisp ?

 

[ipf]

Maybe the printer had a lisp ?

Should that be 'lishp'?

Had a situation a while ago, I think I mentioned it on here, where I changed a CU for a friend. Wiring to one light under the stairs (I put it on it's own cct) had no earth. I showed the NIC inspector and he agreed it was OK, with appropriate label.

 

[Pete999]

Niceic do them with of course their logo on them

Course they do.

 

[Ian1981]

Course they do.

You missed my sarcasm Pete

 

[Deleted member 72666]

I stand corrected on my last post, turns out they do make "no provision for earth" labels. I just ordered some. I should have checked before sending post, oops.

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Where did you get yours from?

 

[Pete999]

You missed my sarcasm Pete

Come on it is early doors Ian give me a chance

 

[DPG]

What a pity they didn't run a spell checker over the text before going into production

Can't believe I never noticed that mistake!

 

[Andy78]

I have some of those labels that have been in my bag for about 6 years I think. Someone gave me them.

 

[KevinH]

Where did you get yours from?

Ordered labels from spotlabels.co.uk. cost £5 for 50 that includes my personalised company details and postage. Although for that price I'm not expecting the best quality!

 

[Topboy]

Walk

 

[GMES]

Like an Egyptian

 

[Pete999]

Walk

Away Rene

 

[Andy78]

Walk

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