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[Baddegg]

Went to view a kitchen refit this week, new kitchen and new rfc circuit dedicated to the kitchen, have a look at the CU and whilst inspecting I see that the 2 lighting circuits, up & down, are both wired with the same 1mm 3&E cable (pre 2005 cable)
Red as line to down mcb, yellow to up mcb, blue to neutral bar and earth to earth bar,
I am relatively new to this game but I’ve never seen that before and the customer says she’s never had any problems with it,ask for any old paper work and the cert (won’t mention the scams name) for a CU change doesn’t mention it but then it also says all IR readings were perfect ha ha!

 

[Baddegg]

Not doubting your experience buddy,that’s really the reason us “boil in the bags” are here wouldn’t you say?

 

[Baddegg]

Not doubting your experience buddy,that’s really the reason us “boil in the bags” are here wouldn’t you say?
Not sure what apprentices have to do with this,are you implying that if someone served an apprenticeship they would know all the answers?
I’ll leave it at that,it’s a shame that it seems easier to insult people on here than just to help,

 

[paullyons]

There’s a lot of people on this forum so far up their own a**. The way some of you talk is as though you were born with all this vast knowledge that makes you far superior to the rest of use. The handful of you that consider yourself to be superior should just make yourselves a WhatsApp group n play amongs yourselves so that other can get on and give/receive advise the way the forum was intended.

 

[littlespark]

If the OP has the relevant knowledge and quals to be a "domestic installer", that's good enough for the work he's doing, and the schemes have approved it, so be it.

This question may have come from a "real" electrician (apologies to OP) so his background shouldn't be an issue.

Q. Is using a 3 core and earth right for serving both lighting circuits?
A. No, it isn't.

I would assume even a domestic installer would need to test their installation on completion, so that's when you write down comments on existing installation.

 

[Baddegg]

Hi little spark
No need to apologise, as stated I don’t consider myself an electrician in the fullest sense of the word,I do have all relevant qualifications and scheme membership with PL and a fair bit of experience within the domestic market which is where I intend to stay,this was just something I’d never seen before.
Many thanks for the advise on comments on the existing installation that is what I intended to do but as a relatively new “boil in the bag” never heard that one but did make me chuckle, was really just looking for reassurance to that effect

 

[buzzlightyear]

imo, you need the service of a qualified spark .

disagree, paullyons
did you press the button buy mistake .mmm. please don't stand behind a close door ,put some input in if you like !

 

[telectrix]

deleted.brain not in gear yet.

 

[paullyons]

disagree, paullyons
did you press the button buy mistake .mmm. please don't stand behind a close door ,put some input in if you like !

Maybe you could read further along the thread and see my input

 

[buzzlightyear]

There’s a lot of people on this forum so far up their own a**. The way some of you talk is as though you were born with all this vast knowledge that makes you far superior to the rest of use. The handful of you that consider yourself to be superior should just make yourselves a WhatsApp group n play amongs yourselves so that other can get on and give/receive advise the way the forum was intended.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Maybe you

me, more like you have throwing you dummy out of the pram on this .

 

[Pete999]

According to the certification,a local building firm to me, registered with a scheme, I have stressed to the owner that it’s not right and needs changing but as I say she’s not interested as it’s never given her any problems....has anybody seen this before and what would you do in this situation?

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[FatAlan]

Going back to the original question. If you do the kitchen install and put the new circuit in would you be doing the EIC? Just thinking of backside covering and where your concerns on other parts of the installation could be recorded. Again, I’m a ‘boil in a bag’ keen to learn and haven’t had the luxury of a four year apprenticeship but funnily enough want to do the best and safest job I can.

 

[Baddegg]

Hi Alan
Yes that’s what I will do,as before it’s just nice to have the reassurance of experience if anyone’s kind enough to take the time, good luck with your boiling,I’m sure you are aware there are also a lot of very experienced and positive sparks on here who will help where they can but will also tell you no if they don’t feel it’s right without insulting you,

 

[Wilko]

Hi - if owner won't pay for it to be fixed, then I would note it on the EIC for your new kitchen circuit.

 

[FatAlan]

....and don’t mention Brexit!