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Octopus
Think of them as a framework by which the vast majority of sparkies work to to uphold best practive, standards and safety.
No RCD in place..
Think of them as a framework by which the vast majority of sparkies work to to uphold best practive, standards and safety.
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dancematic66
Yep, I knew that was the reason behind having them.
My question was quite blunt!
If a qualified electrician for instance, didn't follow regulations installing RCD protection on a ring circuit in a new development and someone died as a result of a lethal shock. Would the electrician be held accountable and the non guidance of regs be used against him in a court of law?
My question was quite blunt!
If a qualified electrician for instance, didn't follow regulations installing RCD protection on a ring circuit in a new development and someone died as a result of a lethal shock. Would the electrician be held accountable and the non guidance of regs be used against him in a court of law?
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Octopus
Yes and yes.
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dancematic66
Understood!
More than likely although there are still circumstances even on new installations were a socket circuit does not need RCD protection. Remember in TN systems the RCD is only there for additional protection. RCD's are not the be all and end all, do you know how many would fail proper testing.
Back to your op, so long as the installation complied to the version of BS 7671 in place at that time and is still in a serviceable condition then there is no need to upgrade.
Back to your op, so long as the installation complied to the version of BS 7671 in place at that time and is still in a serviceable condition then there is no need to upgrade.
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dancematic66
Hi Sintra,
My knowledge is not enough to understand your post, please could you explain to me?
My knowledge is not enough to understand your post, please could you explain to me?
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Some sockets do not require RCD protection.
Older versions of the Regulations (BS7671) did not require RCD protection to the same extent as the current version.
AS such if an installation complied at the time of construction with the version of the Regulations in force at that time, there is no requirement for the installation to be upgraded.
Older versions of the Regulations (BS7671) did not require RCD protection to the same extent as the current version.
AS such if an installation complied at the time of construction with the version of the Regulations in force at that time, there is no requirement for the installation to be upgraded.
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Back to your op, so long as the installation complied to the version of BS 7671 in place at that time and is still in a serviceable condition then there is no need to upgrade.[/QUOTE]
The regs are non statutory but can be used in a court of law. And as I said not retrospective. So as above if it complies to the regs when installed then you can't then tell a customer that its not safe now as it doesn't meet the current regs, so now you have to spend £700 to bring it up to the current standard as a whole.
The regs are non statutory but can be used in a court of law. And as I said not retrospective. So as above if it complies to the regs when installed then you can't then tell a customer that its not safe now as it doesn't meet the current regs, so now you have to spend £700 to bring it up to the current standard as a whole.
I would think that you try and stop making a mountain out of a mole hill ( sorry if I sound blunt, but you seem to have a little bit of knowledge, which is sometimes a dangerous thing)
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Octopus
Look at some of his other posts.
My posts?
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dancematic66
No offence taken, true, I do have some knowledge of electrical practices and basic theory.
I am not a qualified electrician or consider myself to be any where near the level of someone who has studied in the field, hence the reason why I am asking you all so many questions.
The whole point of this thread was to help me understand the legality and working practice behind electrical regulations.
Now I understand a lot more than I did 5 hours ago!
Murdoch what is your problem mate?
Is this not a place where people like myself can come to ask advice from professionals or is it some clique club where if you don't fit in sly comment's and digs are made at you? Grow up!
I am not a qualified electrician or consider myself to be any where near the level of someone who has studied in the field, hence the reason why I am asking you all so many questions.
The whole point of this thread was to help me understand the legality and working practice behind electrical regulations.
Now I understand a lot more than I did 5 hours ago!
Murdoch what is your problem mate?
Is this not a place where people like myself can come to ask advice from professionals or is it some clique club where if you don't fit in sly comment's and digs are made at you? Grow up!
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dancematic66
@Sintra, Chrish & Spinlondon, thanks I now understand that work complying with older regs at the time of installation do not have to be brought up to standard with newer regs unless work is carried out to the installation.
I guess if every installation did have to be brought up to standard then there would be a hell of a lot of work needed!
I guess if every installation did have to be brought up to standard then there would be a hell of a lot of work needed!
Have done nuff said
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