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I have had PV panels installed recently (rent-a-roof scheme). They are working fine. But I don't think I'm getting free electrity. On one sunny day, the panels were producing 2kwh and I was using only 200 watts ( I knew it by reading a gadget given by e.on). But the meter (digital one) still clocked up as it normally would. My understanding is that while the panels are producing more than what I'm using, the meter should not clock up. Am I right?
Many thanks in advance for the answers/comments.

Nyi
 
I would assume the EON energy meter device is not bi direcional and cannot give you an accurate reading now the panels have been installed.

The best way to see if you are using grid generated power is to see if you grid installed meter is turning or pulsing, if it isnt then great!
 
You are correct, there is a possability that your meter is configured to an anti tamper setting where electricity flowing to the grid through your meter is being added to the import figure - this is to defeat people who rewire their meter in an attempt to avoid paying for the electricity. I would suggest that when the panels are producing, you turn off all the circuits at the fuse box so you are not using any juice and see if the meter still clocks up. There are several treads on here regarding this.
Depending on where you have the clamps for the E.O.N meter it is also possible that you are exporting 200 watts and using the rest as they cannot tell direction of flow.
 
Gary is correct, however if your PV is connected into your consumer unit and you turn it off then your PV system will stop working too.
Just a thought Gary.
 
Thanks poheZ. The grid installed meter was pulsing despite the panels were producing more than 10 times I was using at that time.
 
Also, if they have used the wrong size cable on the install it may be that the voltage drop is too high so there is no flow from the inverter to your outlets.
How far is the distance from the inverter to the consumer unit. Does the cable from the inverter look the same size as the one for your sockets or is it bigger?
 
Depending on where you have the clamps for the E.O.N meter it is also possible that you are exporting 200 watts and using the rest as they cannot tell direction of flow.
A very good point... you might even have been using 2.2kW, generating 2kW and therefore importing 200W, and this is what the E.ON meter is telling you. The import meter would be clocking up if this was the case.

Whereabouts have you positioned the clamp meter?

I agree with Earthstore and Gary with turning off all the circuits but keeping the main box on and the solar pv generating. If the meter still goes up then, that would be worrying!
 
It is not a siemens. It is AMPY METERING-UK.
hmm, they're usually rebadged landis Gyr meters (E110 if i remember right). I've not known them to have problems, but it's possible they have that functionality that one of the energy suppliers chose to switch on.
 
A very good point... you might even have been using 2.2kW, generating 2kW and therefore importing 200W, and this is what the E.ON meter is telling you. The import meter would be clocking up if this was the case.

Whereabouts have you positioned the clamp meter?

I agree with Earthstore and Gary with turning off all the circuits but keeping the main box on and the solar pv generating. If the meter still goes up then, that would be worrying!

I was pretty sure that the the panels were producing 2.2Kwh on that day and the only electrical thing switched on was a fridge, and the meter still clocked up.

I swiched off the main (and the panels were generating) and the meter stopped completely.

I don't know whether E.ON knows I have the panels installed. It was rent-a-roof scheme. I thought the installer told them.
 
A very good point... you might even have been using 2.2kW, generating 2kW and therefore importing 200W, and this is what the E.ON meter is telling you. The import meter would be clocking up if this was the case.

Whereabouts have you positioned the clamp meter?

I agree with Earthstore and Gary with turning off all the circuits but keeping the main box on and the solar pv generating. If the meter still goes up then, that would be worrying!

At that time Sunnybean was showing that the panels were producing 2.2Kwh. The e.on gadget that tells how much I'm using was telling me 200 watts. I have this gadget for 2 years and I am sure it only tells me the usage only. The clamp for the gadget is on the wire ( marked with brown tape and the letter L) that goes into the meter.
 

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