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Hi guys,, basically I work for a firm and we specialise in care homes so there not part p registered,there a member of eca though. I'm fully qualified with 2391 also.
My uncles having a house built and wants me to wire it,, as I'm not part of a scheme do I need to tell building control. I asked them and they want ÂŁ360 is there any way around it?? As joining stroma would be cheaper than that. Surely there's a cheaper way?

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Well there's another issue all these local authorities have different terms. Out of interest can you expand on the above of the self certifying electrician not under part P I take it you mean not with one of the schemes. what is their 3rd party costs regarding ?

This is a constant bone of contention on many forums but fairly easy to explain, although someone will no doubt pop up and tell me I am talking carp :)

Yes there may be someone who has sent them their qualifications and allowed them to sign off with an EIC but this is the exception rather than the rule. Just look at building control as a business who are legally responsible for the work they are signing off and try to run at a profit not a loss. Different councils have different budgets, different staffing etc etc. If electrical work is signed off by a scheme they have zero responsibility and zero costs, if they accept your qualifications and it goes wrong they are ultimately responsible, for this reason most councils will cover themselves by getting a third party sign off which costs them money. Some councils employ someone with a test and inspection background, a council near me has such a member of staff so they can undertake supervision of electrical work. The interesting question is if someone sent in an EIC to building control along with their qualifications and this was accepted, legally surely they would be responsible for that installation (would need Pli to cover the installation etc)

Councils charge on the basis of work they anticipate they will undertake during the build, most councils will state in their terms and conditions that all building inspection is priced on the assumption that any electrical work will be subject of design, installation and test certificate by an electrician who is a member of a competent person scheme. They will then go on to say that if it is not, they will make a supplementary charge which will reflect the costs incurred by them in instructing a third party competent person to undertake the necessary site visits and inspections which are required. This is to cover inspection of design, site visits to check work during inspection at first fix, inspection and text at completion. All councils set their own building control charges, as a customer you don't like them you are free to use any other independent third party inspectors. The golden rule for me when dealing with building control is to speak directly to understand what they require. Alternatively go on their website, there are very few which do not publicly outline their fee structure and requirements.
 
Someone did post a link to a web site that LBC are supposedly to use, to check the competency of electricians (checking their qualifications etc) to carry out domestic work. Recall another member saying he has approval from his BC to do domestic work without being in a scheme, catch was their wanted ÂŁ80 or so each time.

OP, if it's just going to cost ÂŁ360, and you doing the rewiring, still gonna save your uncle some cash (unless it's not a love job!).
 
So what you are saying is if you do not belong to one of the schemes you can pay LBC. fee prior to starting and they inspect in stages or you send Quals etc of to them pay smaller fee then what?do you test and they come at end of job who is the third party a contractor /in house. I assume that this is for a one off job only as they would expect you to be a member of a scheme after that.
 
^^^Why are you asking? Cos what you've said is pretty much it, not sure about 3rd party in Wales?
I used to be QS/PDH for niceic contractor so everything was done via them inc wiring for friends and family done through it left 2 years ago now doing mostly schools etc just wondered as we do not have enough domestic work to make it worth while joining scheme need change his c.u and new circuits to his kitchen maybe a call to LBC ÂŁ300+ is a lot of money for him let alone if it was a customer.
 
What about simply getting in a sparky who is registered and see if you can do the first fix, get him to do the termination, testing and sign off. It might be a cheaper option ( assuming money is the issue) or simply join a scheme.
 

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