Obtaining an Export MPAN

[Iain123]

If an export meter is fitted how is the MPAN obtained
Whoes job is it to create MPAN's
Supplier Npower
Export meter has a serial
DNO is UK power networks

Or is it simply the case of using the import MPAN for export meter as well

Thanks
Iain

 

[finchy]

I would say your main Meter (import) is the MPAN to use, it is specific to the electricity supply to that address not export.

 

[babba]

Unless Im wrong MPAN is an MPAN and should be on lecci bill... Is this a domestic install..hate to say I dont think the question is to clear...

 

[Earthstore]

Racking my tiny brain, as I have done all this from scratch.
Your export mpan will be a new number (not the same as your existing Mpan) issued, I believe by your energy provider and this is where the fun starts, they all seem to charge different amounts for installing and running an export meter, and some pay a higher rate than others for your export also.
Also your FIT provider has to be your supplier if you have an export meter fitted, and they all have different priced supply tarrifs to add to the mixing bag also.
You really have to crunch some numbers to work out which provider will work out the best for the customer.
When I looked into all this for a large system, even though the customer is exporting over 50%, with the added costs of running the export meter the customer would have been £200 per year worse off.
I managed to get around it another way, Tiny brain worked well that day...

 

[babba]

Earthstore got me baffled...where is Ted when you need him...I surrender...

 

[Earthstore]

Sorry, your export Mpan will be a new number, it is not the same as the Mpan number on your bill, that is for your import meter.
Ted,s in bed....

 

[babba]

Go and knock on his door LOL

 

[pvman]

I think the export MPAN should be generated if you apply under G59, the dNO issue the export MPAN number and arrange to fit the export meter, this may take some time i have found. If it is a small install and no G59 then I'm not sure how you go about getting a export meter.

Tom

 

[JD6400]

Hi Iain123 , if you still want info on , or need that export mpan ? Pm me with a contact number and i can run through it with you if you like !
Depending on which part of the UK power networks system you want to connect to , i also have the contact details for the man that will make it happen ( if he is still there that is ? ).
Also you really need to listen to what Earth store has said and do the figures before signing your client up to a system that will need a export mpan as it could very easily be a costly mistake !!!

 

[TedM]

There's a lot of confusion about this, not helped by the elec cos not playing by the rules, and there are several different aspects to consider.

To get FiTs export tariff paid by metering rather than deemed you need an approved meter (on the approved list or MID - same as a generation meter) installed and then registered by the elec supplier (not DNO) on the BSC - the Balancing and Settlement Code.

Many elec suppliers will tell you that they will only do this if they install and own the meter. This is not right.

Anyone (competent) can install the meter and the homeowner can even own the meter as well - import or export.

Elec suppliers do not 'own' any meters, they just lease them from the actual owner for the duration of your contract with them. That's how you can switch suppliers and still keep the same meter.

An import and export meter should have separate MPANs even if they are combined in a single physical meter. This is laid down in the MRAs - the Master Registration Agreement - that allows supplier switching to happen. Again some elec suppliers do not play by this rule and only have one MPAN. They avoid some small admin costs (multiplied by thousands though) by doing this.

There also appear to be some instances of a home having an export meter that doesn't actually get registered. The elec supplier pays the owner 3p on the meter reading but claims back the 50% deemed figure from the FiTs pot.

On top of all this there are the DNOs and meter operators, who actually get hands on with meters, who also put out misleading information for whatever commercial reasons.

It's a mess that OFGEM should do something about but don't seem interested in fixing.

 

[SibertSolar]

It does seem to be an unnecessarily confusing and complex situation when it comes to export metering, as Ted has outlined above. It really shouldn't be! If increasing the export FiT rates becomes a crucial part of proposed efforts to maximise the FiT "fund pot" within the phase2 consultation then this really needs to get sorted quick sharpish, there seems to be too much confusion and mis-information.

 

[Iain123]

Thanks everyone for your replies
I have a MID approved meter (thanks Ted for highlighting this important fact) ready to fit
I have emailed Npower a second time asking for a export MPAN I will wait and see what happens
And chase put in a complaint if I do not hear anything

Iain

 

[screwdriver]

I would phone them, we called ukpn and had an export mpan within a day....... We were originally told it was down to the export tarif metering company to apply for this so we thought we didn't need to.........