old garage door

[DDnot]

Hi! I am doing an installation for a garage detached to a house. The garage is going to be converted within a few months into a living area. There are no water or gas services. Nothing really to bond apart from old metal garage door which will be removed during the conversion work anyway. There are no cables around the door or close to it. Do you think I should earth-bond the door temporarily? According to the regs I guess I should. What do you think? By the way the installation is completely separate from the main one through henley block and has a new consumer unit with RCD.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

If it's a metal frame in contact with the general mass of earth, and as such is classed as an Extraneous conductive part, then why can't it be bonded pray tell? Additionally, not bonding it because "it was coming out at some point" would be no defense if someone were to get hurt in the meantime.
What the OP has not yet ascertained, it seems, is whether or not the framework is an ECP.

exactly...

 

[bigbaddave]

David Cockburn changed ones name by deedpole i see.,..

 

[ian.settle1]

Hi! I am doing an installation for a garage detached to a house. The garage is going to be converted within a few months into a living area. There are no water or gas services. Nothing really to bond apart from old metal garage door which will be removed during the conversion work anyway. There are no cables around the door or close to it. Do you think I should earth-bond the door temporarily? According to the regs I guess I should. What do you think? By the way the installation is completely separate from the main one through henley block and has a new consumer unit with RCD.

If it is being removed why would you want to bond it?

Another one who does not know what their doing after a 5 day course I think.

 

[Guitarist]

If it is being removed why would you want to bond it?

Another one who does not know what their doing after a 5 day course I think.

I don't think you can ever assume anything. If it does need bonding and the "conversion" was to take a year or 2, how would you make the decision not to bother? My philosophy is to bond anything that needs it, then remove it when it's no longer needed, although we still haven't established whether it even needs it yet, as the op seems to have lost interest !!!

 

[RyanCheetham]

I naively assumed the frame would be simply bolted to the garage structure and as such would not create a path to earth hence not being able to bond to it

 

[Guitarist]

I naively assumed the frame would be simply bolted to the garage structure and as such would not create a path to earth hence not being able to bond to it

The op did say something about a big metal frame, though it sounds like he really doesn't have a clue...

 

[RyanCheetham]

My response was clearly too hasty given the lack of detail by the op. As posted by others testing is the correct answer, as it always is.

 

[telectrix]

and take into account the resistivity of the rust. this can be a deciding factor on whether it's extraneous or not, or about to collapse. :21:

 

[worzol99]

If its being taken out, what is the point of the question?

 

[Guitarist]

If its being taken out, what is the point of the question?

If I told you that my gas main was being removed in a few months time, would you not bother to bond it?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

If I told you that my gas main was being removed in a few months time, would you not bother to bond it?

yeah...its a bit like someone i knew saying `well the TT is only temporary till the DNO get out to PME it....so i wont bother with the RCD top end`....LOL...LOL..

 

[worzol99]

If I told you that my gas main was being removed in a few months time, would you not bother to bond it?

Point taken, but personally i wouldn't bother in this instance

 

[Guitarist]

Point taken, but personally i wouldn't bother in this instance

Since the OP hasn't bothered getting back to us it's all conjecture anyway

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Since the OP hasn't bothered getting back to us it's all conjecture anyway

yeah....funny how they often do a runner...lol..

 

[Guitarist]

yeah....funny how they often do a runner...lol..

You mean as soon as we mention anything involving testing or calculations?