PART A building Regs

[infinity]

Do any of you notify building control under Part A and then have a building inspector come round to inspect the work once done?

 

[tazz]

They tend to turn up, as and when they wish throughout the project.

 

[infinity]

So you inform them every time you carry out a PV install?

 

[tazz]

Not to sure with PV, but would think if they are involved in project yes on completion, otherwise would be contractor your working for to sign off on inspection.

 

[infinity]

It's Only PV I'm interested in today, I'm not aware of anyone who calls building control out to check the roof once finished and sign part P off. Quite contrary to what one potential customer just informed me

 

[Gavin A]

It's Only PV I'm interested in today, I'm not aware of anyone who calls building control out to check the roof once finished and sign part P off. Quite contrary to what one potential customer just informed me

don't know about all CPS schemes, but NAPIT have a specific category of notification for MCS companies for solar PV installations, which means they notify both for part P and for structural loading.

as MCS solar companies are supposed to either have the competence or sub contract it to self certify for that.

so yes we self certify for it, no we don'[t expect building control to check our work, as we've self certified it.

or as NAPIT put it....

NAPIT Registration Ltd are authorised by DCLG to approve competent installers to self‐certificate compliance with the Building Regulations for companies working within the scope of row 17 and 20 of
Schedule 3 of the Building Regulations 2010. NAPIT’s approved installers are required to verify in the self‐
certification that the installation meets all requirements of the Building Regulations; including where
relevant Part A (structure) and Part C (water ingress) as well as those parts relating to electrical or heating
work.
NAPIT only approve companies under this DCLG authorisation if they are also certificated as approved
installers under DECC’s Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS). The assessments of companies under
MCS includes, for those technologies involving roof work, verification that they are either competent to
assess roof structures or that they have procedures in place to bring in a competent supplier or
subcontractor.
NAPIT’s notification system does not allow Part P electrical contractors (Schedule 3 rows 11 and 12) to use
the notification descriptor “Installed photovoltaics (PV)” or “Installed a solar collector (solar thermal)”
unless they are also specifically approved under Row 17.

 

[SRE]

NICEIC is the same - comes under competent persons.

 

[infinity]

don't know about all CPS schemes, but NAPIT have a specific category of notification for MCS companies for solar PV installations, which means they notify both for part P and for structural loading.

as MCS solar companies are supposed to either have the competence or sub contract it to self certify for that.

so yes we self certify for it, no we don'[t expect building control to check our work, as we've self certified it.

or as NAPIT put it....

Our MCS is with NAPIT so she i notify part P is Part A automatically notified? is there anywhere i can check/ view this?

This guy i called today pretty much called us cowboys for not having building control out to check the roof telling me everyone else does it, and he will not let us anywhere near his roof!

We are one of the few that actually have a third party survey carried out on every roof from BMG surveys. He was actually quite rude about.

 

[solarsavings]

He was actually quite rude

Well you're a big boy be rude back.

We notify ours through elecsa and don't know of anyone local that goes direct to BC

 

[BruceB]

Who/what was 'the guy you called today'?

You do not 'notify Part P' you notify compliance with building regulations, all of them.

There is a thread from a couple of years ago I think that cites the legal authority. I'll have a quick look.

 

[BruceB]

Legislation is here
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/2214/contents/made
Look at Schedule 3 Serial 17 for MCS

What it means is that if you meet the conditions then for microgeneration work you do not have to submit a building notice or plans. There is another document which makes the point that minor structural work can be done under this legislation if it is effectively part of the PV job.

 

[BruceB]

Discussion by labc here
http://www.labc.uk.com/Media/Defaul...2 Installation of Microgeneration Systems.pdf
which gives the explanation and assurance you seek I think