By "sub standard sparks" do you mean those so called five day wonders that people seem so happy to poke sticks at on this site? Could I ask you for some proof of what you say? where is there any proof that five day wonders are sub standard? Or that they produce poor quality work. It seems that you think that anyone who has not done a traditional apprenticeship must be rubbish. Who knows, maybe their work is better than yours, you just dont know, you jump to conclusions. Maybe you dont like domestic installers because they have upset the status quo?
You haven't understood the main point of my post aand have jumped to some very wrong conclusions
Maybe coming from a 5-day wonder perspective you have kept your own part p entry status in mind when reading what I have posted
I will try and summarise where I think the industry has gone wrong
It was not the main focus of my posts to have a bash at whatever training methods that are now available,whether they are going to be the normal or not I wouldn't like to guess
If I had an objection to anyone doing a short course,it would be someone inexperienced from a different background,unable to become employed as a spark and using self employment to get that expeience at the expense of the home owner
Unfortunately that has become a very popular method of entering the trade
They are allowed, without previous history in the trade, entry to these schemes on the same level as trainees, who have invested much more time and effort to call themselves qualified
My objection since the outset of part p has been the pathetically thought out procedure for carrying out electrics in the home, via a flawed scheme membership system
I, like telextric, also have no objection to people doing whats available to improve or make a change of carreer,using whats available to do so
My main point about defined scope registration (plumbers.tilers kitchen fitters and diy ers ) and the sectioning off of our trade to other trades to use as some sort of insignificant addition to their own
It has made electrical installation, whether it is done in the home or elsewhere, have less importance,status ,safety,call it what you will,but it has denegrated the trade
As far as 5-day wonders are concerned,
No, they should not be allowed to gain the experience experimenting on householders,the one level of Domestic installer may not have been thought through very well, ditto the entry requirements
Doing a course on the regs after having experience in the game is a totally different ball game to doing the regs exam and being let loose on the unfortunate customer, in order to gain that experience
Supervision whilst training cannot be excluded simply for schemes to acrue numbers
Cant you agree that a spark who has done an apprentiship,passed his exams to get the industry qualifications, may be very agrieved to find that he would have to employ someone from outside the industry with far less competence than himself to fit a socket in his own kitchen
I know that the answer by some will be that he can do so, but its the procedure that he has to follow that excludes him, unless he pays a fee,but what a rediculous sytem when someone without any experience in the trade can then be deemed competent whereas the apprentice trained spark is deemed no better than a diy er
Again I have no objection to anybody taking a short couse as part of his main employment,gaining experience perhaps as a mate then progressing.I do object to other trades using ours as an add on
