Part P, we want your feedback!

[sparks72]

So who got the NICEIC Part P survey via email?

I read last year that the government were looking at Part P amongst other building regulations mainly because of the rants on the website that was set up to have your say on what laws should go or be amended.

What's everyones thoughts on Part P, Personally I think the NICEIC & other scheme providers are bricking it as judgment day approaches, Part P, it's a waste of time & only lines the pockets of the scheme providers / council etc, it's never been policed since it was introduced & the horror story's are very much in circulation today as they were before Part P.

 

[BlueToBits]

I'd love to see this survey. Any links? could someone paste it in please?

 

[jedisparks]

im with the niceic and havent received this survey. waste of time anyway, no doubt

 

[mozzo]

the survey is what it is but we have to vote within the constraints otherwise we end up doing nothing but complaining about our lot. I agree with many statements on this thread but like others I have seen these surveys before and they appear on many internal customer satisfaction surveys within big multi billion £ corporations. It's not perfect but in time with continued development I believe the industry will get there, don't ask me how long. Standards and policing is not an easy matter and what about your car garage down the road is the people qualified with certificates or do they just have time spent experience. In the scheme of standards and universal acceptance and the general populas knowing, 2005 until now is a very short time unless government throw in national campaigns to educate. There are questions in the survey about awareness.

 

[KFH]

If you feel the questions are not addressing the real questions then email the originator. Mine came via the ECA. If enough people let them know then they may start to pay attention and try thinking of more original questions and options for scoring.

 

[morph]

its not just people doing notifiable work and doing it crap and not notifing
plenty of part p people doing crap work and notify it as though its good
job today
kitchen company spark
done kitchen electrics
no isolators for aplliances
no isolator that i could find for hob
socket over drainer
all brand new !
he thinks he is great and knows it all, i told him on the phone ( i am doing loft job and he is doing kitchen as part of overall kitchen job) that isolator in back of cupboard is poor he disagrees, well he fitted the oven one in the cupboard and i cant find the hob one even though i looked in every cupboard

 

[Engineer54]

Probably because they are both being fed from the oven isolator!!!!... Most here think locating CCUs and the like at the back of kitchen cabinets is the dog's what's it's...lol!!!

 

[morph]

Probably because they are both being fed from the oven isolator!!!!... Most here think locating CCUs and the like at the back of kitchen cabinets is the dog's what's it's...lol!!!

actually no , its two seperate circuits and they are on opposite sides of the room
the hob is 7kw
oven is 4kw

 

[morph]

the bloke is just a typical kitchen fitter spark , all cables just lashed under cupboards,

 

[Octopus]

its not just people doing notifiable work and doing it crap and not notifing
plenty of part p people doing crap work and notify it as though its good
job today
kitchen company spark
done kitchen electrics
no isolators for aplliances
no isolator that i could find for hob
socket over drainer
all brand new !
he thinks he is great and knows it all, i told him on the phone ( i am doing loft job and he is doing kitchen as part of overall kitchen job) that isolator in back of cupboard is poor he disagrees, well he fitted the oven one in the cupboard and i cant find the hob one even though i looked in every cupboard

This just about sums up the issues with Part P - self certification and no inspection. Surely the natural advance of Part P would be "random" checks/inspections.

 

[Engineer54]

actually no , its two seperate circuits and they are on opposite sides of the room
the hob is 7kw oven is 4kw

Looked behind any draw units?? What's the betting??? ....lol!!

 

[morph]

even looked behind draws ! , could not locate it, total disregard to any form of good practice, building regs or Bs7671 ,
the oven isolator is behind a stack of tray things in a cupboard,
yep part p is a real mess ,

 

[rocker]

Hello all, sorry to spam but, well, I don't know if it's just me but I'm having a few problems with the forum. My post new thread button at top of page has gone, and if I do try and post a new thread it doesn't give me the option to do a title. Also the link to go back to the forum after you post something has dissappeared, as has that little arrow thing and the adverts that it hides. Maybe something to do with dan shifting the BnQ ad?

Anyway, is it just me? Do I have a problem? Or is this normal for a growing boy? Anyone else having problems?

 

[rocker]

Apparently it's being worked out......

 

[morph]

the forum is a bit broken at the moment

 

[Engineer54]

even looked behind draws ! , could not locate it, total disregard to any form of good practice, building regs or Bs7671 , the oven isolator is behind a stack of tray things in a cupboard,
yep part p is a real mess ,

That seems to be quite acceptable to many here, they can't see anything wrong with having to drag everything out of the cupboard to get access to a CCU!!! So it's not just kitchen fitters unfortunately!!!