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:rolleyes:Hi every one
I have tried to get in to the electricial trade full time for the last year or so but as we know it is pretty dire out there!! I have a non electrical job full time but have been doing odd jobs here and there part time electricialy i under stand about part p ect non notifiable jobs and notifiable jobs!! i have 2330 level 2 and level 3 ,17th edition and 2391 inpsect and test.i have public and indemnity insurance i keep shying away from notifiable jobs as i have not joined napit yet.question is !!!! is there any one out there in the same position as me and is it worth joining napit !!!! i am confident in inspection and test on single and 3 phase installs as i have done some work with my brother in law as he is a maintenance spark can i justify the cost of part p when i work part time doing lecy work any help would be most gratefull

Rich
 
i am elecsa registered, it costs about £400 a year (plus about £2 for each job), and for me it is a must. i think if you want to go down the domestic line it is an absolute nescessity but i suppose it depends how much domestic work you get or want as to whether its worth your while, but if you are getting more enquires for work then i would say get registered and take a gamble
 
take the leap...!!! alternatively speak to your Local Building Department and try and BARGAIN!!! its not not unknown for them to assess your work and if they happy they will allow you to just INFORM them for a FEE agreed between your self...! some times as low as £40 admin fee..!

but after 10 notifiyable jobs you will become worse off... or you will be worse off if they wont bargain and harge £220 per job!! lol


im Elecsa and i pay 370&Vat other schems are very closely priced also... NICEIC price matched Elecsa Recently and Napit just do there own thing! lol

i know a few sparks who also "use another company's registration number for a PRICE" but i wont comment on that any more!
 
Im with NICEIC they charge £450 approx. Spoke with my LABC they wanted £120.00 plus VAT for a CU change. Three of those in one year pays the £450 and I dont have to turn down any jobs so take the plunge you dont want to get a reputation for turning down jobs.

Good luck



Chris
 
Try joining the NAPIT 8 scheme, this allows you the benefit of being able to notify upto 8 jobs per year for a cheaper membership fee, keep these for your bigger jobs, and continue with unnotifiable works for the rest and see how it goes over first 12 months.
 
Can we get a firm answer and decision on this beacause as I read through this forum I become more and more confused,,,on all the courses I have just done which includes Part P and 2391 Inspection,Test and Certification,,,we were told that you must be registered with one of the schemes to sign off work your own or other peoples and issue a Certificate,,,,,The rules say you must be a competent Person??? So what is the real and actual take on this,,,,because I see quite a few people on here who reckon YOU DO NOT need to be registered with NICEIC, NAPIT or ECA etc, etc, to sign off work and issue a Certificate, AND IS THE 2391 A DEFINATE MUST HAVE???
Can we have an Official ANSWER on this.........Thank you............Signed Confused.com
 
you can legally sign off your work and issue certificates without being a scam member. however, for notifiable work, notifying LABC beforehand and paying their scandalous fees is expensive.
 
Wait a few months and see what changes come into effect with the new Part P. There is talk about Electricians in England being able to sign off work done by non registered persons.

Otherwise do the notifications through LABC.

As guide if do more than 5 notifiable jobs a year then registration is worth it - if your doing less than 5 per year hen you might as well stay with LABC.
Call LABC and ask them how much they charge and do the calculations
 
Wait a few months and see what changes come into effect with the new Part P. There is talk about Electricians in England being able to sign off work done by non registered persons.

Otherwise do the notifications through LABC.

As guide if do more than 5 notifiable jobs a year then registration is worth it - if your doing less than 5 per year hen you might as well stay with LABC.
Call LABC and ask them how much they charge and do the calculations

It's not just a case of what notifying costs though Nicholas. One has to notify in advance and wait for a pre-work visit, as well as a sign-off visit after completion of work, so a lot of hassle... Notifying with my LBC costs £180 and even if I planned to do 2 or 3 jobs a year, I wouldn't get the work unless I was willing to pay that fee myself.
 
Im with NICEIC they charge £450 approx. Spoke with my LABC they wanted £120.00 plus VAT for a CU change. Three of those in one year pays the £450 and I dont have to turn down any jobs so take the plunge you dont want to get a reputation for turning down jobs.

Good luck



Chris

The first thing a lot of potential customers ask is whether I can sign-off work. Even if it isn't a notifiable job, they still want the reassurance that you can tackle anything that comes along straight away.
 
You have 2 issues

Electrical regs
Anyone can issue a electrical certificate if you can prove you are competent.

Building Regs
Certain electrical work needs Building Control approval.
2 ways of doing this Join a scam who will notify BC or notification to BC direct

Some say no one has been prosecuted for not notifying BC but they have been prosecuted if the work was substandard and did not comply


 
Mine is £60 (for a qualified Electrician - not registered) or £120 for a lay peson

If your only planing on doing 1-3 jobs then its not worth it - if your not going to save at least £200 the register with NAPIT or another scheme. Its all down to how much money your going to save and how much you have to throw at the registration - only you can answer this - do the maths.

(also get yourself a list of all notifiable jobs! so you know what is and not notifiable)
 
You have 2 issues

Electrical regs
Anyone can issue a electrical certificate if you can prove you are competent.

Building Regs
Certain electrical work needs Building Control approval.
2 ways of doing this Join a scam who will notify BC or notification to BC direct

Some say no one has been prosecuted for not notifying BC but they have been prosecuted if the work was substandard and did not comply



Please dont try and hint to people that they may get away with not complying!

Notify all work that is notifiable - just think - is not notifying work worth your job?
 
Who says you will lose your job by not notifying
Can you show one instance where someone has been prosecuted and lost their job for not notifying .

For the record i am registered and agree with part p but i am in a similar situation where for health reasons i am unable to work full time and getting fed up paying out and will thinbk hard when my renewal is due, when the building reg is unenforced and that most of the public dont know anything about it.

This is just my view and i would never tell someone not to register but its good to show all sides

We all moan about part p but what do we do about it.
 
Fully agree Matty - but just remember that you cant prove to your customer that you are confident in what your doing unless you have that logo!
I know there are some with that logo who are not confident at all!

If LABC or Trading Standards wanted to bring you to court for not compiling with B-Regs they could - it is really not worth it!

Until Part P changes the only way to notify are through a scheme or LABC
 

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