Phillips or Pozi

[Lucien Nunes]

I prefer people to ask for a 'crosshead' screwdriver, so that I have an intro for asking whether they want Pozi and Phillips so that I can give them the right one. If they come asking for one or the other, it's a bit presumptious to suggest they might be wrong and grill them over what kind of recess their screw has. I usually say something like 'Please only use it for Phillips screws, if you need a Pozidriv too, you're welcome to take that as well.'

'Actually, I think you need a JIS' usually draws odd looks. I keep and use them regularly as I often work on Japanese equipment.

 

[nicebutdim]

Much prefer if tradesmen came to work with the range of tools they might need during the course of their day.

I know this isn't an ideal world, but what sort of plumber goes to work without a selection of commonly used screwdrivers?

 

[telectrix]

slotted, phillpis.pozi.torx, anything. this wood butcher's screwdriver fits all:

 

[snowhead]

slotted, phillpis.pozi.torx, anything. this wood butcher's screwdriver fits all:
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Looks like it might almost be VDE rated.

 

[Simon47]

I know this isn't an ideal world, but what sort of plumber goes to work without a selection of commonly used screwdrivers?

I'm sure they do, the universal set Telectrix has posted I think it would be fairer to say that most have zero idea that there is more than one type of "cross head" screwdriver - and just have one crosshead driver - and well worn so it can chew up even matching screws.

 

[Teddy Lop]

My heart used to sink on site, when Mr Plumber came along to borrow a "cross head" screwdriver. The question as to if he needed a Pozi or Philips always seemed a difficult one.

I carry two PZ2, the (new) good one and when its due replacing its downgraded in status to the "loaner"/undo old graunched screws/use on mk&wylex and other combo-fit-nothing-properly-heads etc.

never understood the point of pz, always found less slippage with phillips. pz seems almost made to degrade

 

[Simon47]

I find quite the reverse - Philips is very bad for camming out so you can have to push quite hard to avoid cam-out while shifting a stuck screw, while Pozi is generally much better.
BTW - I 100% recommend the Wera "diamond" bits, they really do make a difference.

 

[Teddy Lop]

I find quite the reverse - Philips is very bad for camming out so you can have to push quite hard to avoid cam-out while shifting a stuck screw, while Pozi is generally much better.
BTW - I 100% recommend the Wera "diamond" bits, they really do make a difference.

What phillips are we talking - the ones typically supplied with light fittings - always cheap rubbish, and rarely attempt try to use 'em, reckon theyre phillips size 1 ¾ , must be a chinese thing!

the black ones used to fix plasterboard the screwdriver seems to go really far deep down inside and never slips!


PS have we had the decorators favourite yet, 2 fixing screws, one (preferably half shank) slotted and one crosshead! hedge the risk!

 

[edexlab]

Someone told me once that Philip's screws were designed as an improvement over slotted but also to prevent over torqueing the screw.