PIR and cables under insulation

[tony mc]

Totally agree espesially the examples that have been given.

It is totally down to the inspector at the time and their interpretation of the installation.

How many times do you see the cable crushed by the boards laid in the loft space or the block connectors just laid on the joist.

IMO popping your head in the loft and having a good look is good practice(if you can) you don't want to have a situation where a 50 w dicrohic light blub is melting the box of Christmas decorations that has just been flung up there.

Just reading some of the replies has got me thinking and will change the way I look at things IMO.

 

[robsparky1975]

many an old dodgy diy connection or jb with cover missing on it found in the loft.

 

[poheZ]

The attached photo is my latest "find" - a piece of choc block, wrapped in tape linking 6mm cable to 2.5mm cable - and in the CU, the mcb supplying was a 40A fuse!

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what did you say was wrong with that?


plus thermal insulation covering a cable wont effect the cable if it is only covering one side of the cable and fancy not looking in a loft on a pir! Do you put that on your limitations?

 

[telectrix]

what if you poke your head up through the hatch and see a mountain of fibreglass , you can't find a joist to stand on. the apex is only 3ft. high and the only crawl access into the loft is exactly where Mr. Plumber has fitted a tank and enough copper pipe to keep a pikey in smokes for a fortnight.

 

[nickblake]

i always put my head through a loft , just for a quick look if its full of fibre glass then its out , i will go into a loft if i feel there is some thing wrong , when you find all modern cables at the cdu and old through out the installation ,found a guy who had ripped off a customer should have rewired the house but changed all the face plates and the cables into the cdu there was a piece of wood with terminal blocks in one long row connecting all the old VIR to new cables , one good thing now is the guy who did it is in prison, with cables covered in insulation if you do go into the loft and the cables are covered it could be a problem , but you cant desinge for what happens in the future , how ever as an inspector you need to cover yourself so i would make a note of it in the limitations box then if something does happen your covered