PIR "no RCD on shower circuit"

[Jazza]

A friend of mine has had a company do a PIR on there property, must be renting it out or something.

They were told they needed RCD protection on there shower circuit as an urgent requirement.

Is it possible to fit an RCD after the 45a mcb for the shower circuit. The cable is surface mounted with loads of slack and as they dont want to change there old school Consumer Unit.

 

[DurhamSparky]

The cable is surface mounted

providing the area has been suplementary bonded and its Surface through out the run no RCD is required!!

 

[telectrix]

agreed

 

[DurhamSparky]

sounds like a 5 day wonder did the PIR!!

 

[tonys]

Bonding must also be connected with any circuits within the room as well.

 

[Jazza]

thanks for the reply. Unfortunately it is only surface mounted in the cupboard where the cu is. I put that info in because there is a bit of slack on the cable and an rcd could fit in nice between board and shower.

 

[Jazza]

lol, it did seem a little like that, company was gas elec. supplementary bonding is present but cable is not surface mounted the whole way just can see it as the only cable going up the wall. meaning the rest are buried and someone must of added the shower in at a later date.

 

[DurhamSparky]

Ah!! ok removed situation entirely!!! how long it been installed is next question!

 

[telectrix]

wil the board take a RCBO?

 

[Jazza]

not too sure on install date, why do you ask that?

 

[Jazza]

the board is an old style wylex, not sure what fittings you call them, but someone has put some ge mcbs like you see on the newer boards.

can you get an rcbo for that

 

[DurhamSparky]

as regs changed in 2008!!! if it was existing and it was installed to 16edition then its fine (providing bonding is connected)!

to many people jump on the RCD "save you life cover all scenario"

if a recent addition then 17th would stipulate RCD etc....!!


they have installed push in MCBS!! you CANT get push in RCBO!!


back to original question thoough yes you can install a RCD "After" the Fuse! or why not split the tails and install a Standalone box for shower!!

 

[telectrix]

because if it was compiant at time of installation, the only needs a code 4 on the PIR

 

[Jazza]

ahh I see, I dont think its a recent edition as it is wired in the original red and black. If they still want rcd protection on that circuit, is it ok to put it on the demand side of the circuit, due to the cable being visible?

 

[TPES]

Interested to know what he wrote on the PIR regarding the shower circuit and what code he gave it?