PIR problems

[Darkwood]

These PIR sensors are for internal areas not exterior, normally in toilets and other infrequently used areas such as large/small storage rooms etc. Most internal type fittings, either being surface or recessed, are still generally based around fluorescent and CFL lamps of one description or another, unless were talking about small LED downlights, so it's hardly bad design, no-one is going to fit incandescent lamps these days are they... lol!!

My bad i was explaining for external PIR units ... if its in a cupboard that's rarely accessed then fine its no worse than using a light switch it becomes as you know problematic when traffic in the area is higher and it end up switch on/off all day Ive seen many systems ripped out of through-fares in schools as lamp-life plummeted and got costly but yes agree PIR are fine if you would generally be switching the lights on and off at the same count.

PS Whos said these are indoor kits... I can't see where the OP has said what they are only mention of indoor was brought up by yourself?

 

[Engineer54]

My bad i was explaining for external PIR units ... if its in a cupboard that's rarely accessed then fine its no worse than using a light switch it becomes as you know problematic when traffic in the area is higher and it end up switch on/off all day Ive seen many systems ripped out of through-fares in schools as lamp-life plummeted and got costly but yes agree PIR are fine if you would generally be switching the lights on and off at the same count.

PS Whos said these are indoor kits... I can't see where the OP has said what they are only mention of indoor was brought up by yourself?

Oh well that must have been my bad then!! ..lol!!

 

[MDJ]

Just looking at a Hager PIR sensor (EE804/EE805) information /data sheet now, (the next manufacturers unit we are going to try) ....Nothing about recommending long on periods and short bursts ruining lamp life (but that would go without saying for any lamp type!!) etc just the sensors max Wattage for given types of lamps!!

Certainly wasn't hager fella, however that said I cannot remember which make it was when I was informed about problems with lamps and gear blowing when they switch off and on again and are on for short periods regarding that type of fitting. I will ask when I go for a coffee at the wholesalers next time and let you know.

 

[Darkwood]

Oh well that must have been my bad then!! ..lol!!

No worries im not one to rub it in :ciappa::ciappa::ciappa:

 

[Engineer54]

Certainly wasn't hager fella, however that said I cannot remember which make it was when I was informed about problems with lamps and gear blowing when they switch off and on again and are on for short periods regarding that type of fitting. I will ask when I go for a coffee at the wholesalers next time and let you know.

What do you mean, i have the sensor sitting in it's box on my desk at the moment!! No idea if this sensor is going to be any better than those tried in the past, but we'll soon be in a position to say one way or the other... lol!!

 

[MDJ]

What do you mean, i have the sensor sitting in it's box on my desk at the moment!! No idea if this sensor is going to be any better than those tried in the past, but we'll soon be in a position to say one way or the other... lol!!

I said it wasn't hager that told me about short on times