PIR question

[SSE]

First of all I'm not even sure if this needs to be marked down or not! I'm about to do a PIR on a friends property and whilst checking out another bit of work needing done I noticed that the main water service has just been bonded with a 10mm earth linked off the gas pipe and linked between all the other pipes beside it. The part of the gas pipe that it's linked to is probably about 6 metres away from the main gas incomer. I always thought for gas and water to be earthed together it had to be on one continuous earth cable? So does this need to be marked down and if so what code?

 

[Octopus]

Not sure its even an issue, code 4 maybe?

 

[mattmoo1974]

Code 4 id say.. Its not to the regs but it is bonded so its hardly dangerous(some will say different)...
I rang the tech line the other day and they basicly say its down to you, and what you deem it to be..

 

[mattmoo1974]

Im sure some 1 with no morals would say code 1 and try and pressure some work out of it, You all hear the storys... Dom will find you!!

 

[robsparky1975]

Should be at least continous,code 4 for me,at least it is bonded,not within 600mm of the meter but than again sometimes that is not always possible,i would just put down for remedial works that in my opinion it would benefit being brought upto current standards,if the client says no,and something happens,you have it in black and white and they did not listen to your opinion,its not trying to scaremonger its doing things by the book,you have covered your own back.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Not aware that there is a requirement in BS7671 for the cable to be continuous.
I believe that such is more an NICEIC or LABC requirement.

 

[SSE]

Think when it comes to it I'll just make sure theres continuity and mark it down as a 4 then. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Will you be indicating which Regulation it fails to comply with?
I always put the relevant Regulation with any observations.

 

[Guest123]

BS 7430 recommends an uncut conductor & GN8 also has guidance on using a single conductor.

 

[johnboy6083]

What does bs7430 refer to mate?

 

[Guest123]

BS 7430 is the CoP for earthing.

 

[johnboy6083]

Is there any way to view these without paying for them?

 

[SSE]

BS 7430 recommends an uncut conductor & GN8 also has guidance on using a single conductor.

Thanks. I know that if I was ever to do it this way ie using one cable I would make sure it was uncut/continuous but was just wonderin' what mark it would go down in on the PIR as it has obviously been done a while back and not in accordance with the new regulations.

 

[SSE]

Will you be indicating which Regulation it fails to comply with?
I always put the relevant Regulation with any observations.

I've never actually done this but seems like a good idea and something I am going to start doing from now on, thanks!

 

[SSE]

Right I've done the PIR and am still in two minds, I don't know if I should mark it as a 4 or a 2. Part of me thinks I should just mark it as a 2 to cover myself! Anyway I spoke to one of my mates today who is also an electrician. The company he works for are NICEIC registered and the NICEIC guy who comes round and checks up on him says if you ever came across this situation and for any reason coudn't get an earth cable back to the consumer unit but could get one to the gas incomer from the earthing point for the water where the 10mm for this is and take a 16mm crip and crimp them together this would cover you?