Pre Attendance Test 1 - Health & Safety Trades Gateway

[Connor Mennell]

Anyone done this exam? I'll be sitting it my second time on the 15/3 and my god it is impossible. So many ambiguous answers and things where i just wasn't sure (even tried referring to my notes!) Can anyone offer help/advice to get me through this stage, due to personal problems im half way through the course but not even half way through the material so really need to get through this ASAP! Thanks very much all!

 

[Connor Mennell]

@Kyle88 Congrats buddy!

Yeah it does seem like when they have vacancies for practicals they seem to let people pass!

Bloody rediculous! If you’ve passed, you’ve passed why wait longer? Jesus h Christ they annoy me..

Yeah see mine runs out in June this year. I didn’t even attempt to go through it in the end... I just hope my ombudsman claim comes in my favour.

Yeah I mean that’s what I’m looking at doing in the end, a college close to me does evening classes in Essex. And for some reason it’s a damn sight cheaper when in a college!

Again let me know how it progresses I hope for the best but can’t help but expect the worst!

 

[Akos]

Have you successfully done this?

I failed 4 times and now have this long assignment to do!

Hi, I have the same problem. Do you was able to done that "Health and safety assignment detached house refurbishment pre attendance test version 4"?

 

[Akos]

i need some real help for this assessment i m dyslexics and can do this long assignment i got the written form version 4 detached house refurbishment

Did you get some help? I need too...

 

[Akos]

Hey Kyle,

I'm still about, mainly because i ask for help along with a HNC with Teesside uni thread i go to here.

It's unfortunate mate and as with you im the same. I think it's just the way they are, out for more money... I've just given up with the course in general and put a complaint into the ombudsman, if i get any luck ill let you know and if not.. well I'll see what i can do from there.

What job did you manage to get into?

the H&S exam is ridiculous and not a proper H&S exam by any standards, I had myself (someone who deals with H&S daily) and my supervisor go through it and we couldn't. When i asked my mate (doing another C&G 2365 lvl 2/3) i asked what he did for it and it was a simple one such as water fire extinguishers have the colour band? etc... Reading other forums it sounds like it's a stalling tactic by them because they don't have available practical courses. But thats just hearsay.

If you need any help or if i can just give me a shout.

Connor

Hi, I stuck with "Health and safety assignment detached house refurbishment pre attendance test version 4" is it can anyone help with it?

Thanks
Akos

 

[Richard Burns]

Hi, I stuck with "Health and safety assignment detached house refurbishment pre attendance test version 4" is it can anyone help with it?

Thanks
Akos

If you can explain what aspects are causing problems then we might be able to assist.

 

[Oliver Welsby]

Hi all
New here, failed my exam for the third time this evening and I’m based in Manchester so not sure if the lack of local courses thing, if true, is something to do with it? I was sure I’d nailed the test, went back through to check and match up with previous questions,
Google and used the two pdf links they give you but failed. Two things annoy me, no pass mark given just pass or fail so not sure if you have to get 100% or 60%! And secondly two answers can basically mean the same. Has anyone else noticed/come across this? Anyone got any words of wisdom?
@Kyle88 - congrats!
Regards
Ollie

 

[Simonslimline]

This test sounds like total BS. Why are people having to sit it?

Is it just health and safety?

Can you give an example of some questions possibly?

 

[Oliver Welsby]

It is --------, you’re right. Just failed it for the 4th time and now will no doubt be getting sent this shitty paper copy. It is health and safety. The main problem is the fact that the majority of questions are so long winded and ambiguous:
Statement one: sounds can travel in air and through structure so when considering noise in the workplace both need to be taken into account
Statement two: sound absorbers work better than sound insulators but both have a part to play in the reduction of noise
Possible answers:
Statement one and two are correct
Statement one is correct and linked to statement two
Statement one is correct and not linked to statement two
Both statements are incorrect

Maybe it’s just me but looks like I’m not the only sufferer, has anyone got any words of wisdom for this paper copy? Had anyone got anywhere with it?

TIA

 

[chip]

Hi all,
New here, i started to do some research after i failed the Pre-Attendance Test 1 - Health & Safety two times and i was 100% i nailed it but unfortunately i failed it again I am with "New Trades Carrer" and i started a Full Scope Electrician course does anyone is doing the same course with them ? I start to believe this course is turning in to a scam.
Many thanks.

 

[JAWS]

Just looked at their website. So you get all these qualifications below even though the course is home study. Bet this cost a fortune

Full Scope Electrician

• Part P Defined Scope
• City & Guilds 2382 – 17th Edition of the IEE Wiring Regulations
• Part P Full Scope
• 2391-52 Level 3 Award in inspection and testing
• City & Guilds 2365 Level 3 Diploma in Electrical Installations (Building, Structures)
• City & Guilds Level 3 NVQ
• City & Guilds 2392 – Certificate in Fundamental Inspection, Testing and Initial Verification
• AM2 (Achievement Measurement 2) Assessment

Please note that all examinations and assessments are conducted by an accredited external organisation.

And once you have qualified here are some of the things you’ll be doing to earn your living:

• Work as a fully qualified electrician running your own business or working for a firm.
• Carry out periodic inspection and testing of electrical equipment.
• Install systems and equipment in homes and commercial properties.
• Install cabling, fit electrical equipment and test circuits in home environments.
• Work on commercial maintenance contracts, perhaps for hotels, restaurants and offices etc.

 

[Gareth bell]

Hi all,
New here, i started to do some research after i failed the Pre-Attendance Test 1 - Health & Safety two times and i was 100% i nailed it but unfortunately i failed it again I am with "New Trades Carrer" and i started a Full Scope Electrician course does anyone is doing the same course with them ? I start to believe this course is turning in to a scam.
Many thanks.

hello i am on the same course as you did you pass the H+S online exam or the paper one any help with the paper on wouls be great thanks

 

[Tom Matthews]

hey all,

Sorry I haven’t been checking this page...

I had to do the long written assignment and got it marked and passed first time.

I’m about to go to centre for my 6th and 7th week out of 9.

Currently finished level 2 and got my BS 7671 18th edition.

The work you do through the TMAs is pretty boring and unnecessary other than getting base knowledge. Try and storm through these as quick as possible as you have to be at certain points in order to book weeks at the centre!

The centres are a separate to the trades gateway/t4s etc and don’t really know what work we do so through level 2 do a fair bit of theory with you.

Level 3 is different as there is much more complexity and you need to get a book and do some work separately. They will put you on a site called smart screen and that has worksheets and things to help you as well.

Any questions

Just ask!

Regards

Tom

 

[chip]

hello i am on the same course as you did you pass the H+S online exam or the paper one any help with the paper on wouls be great thanks

Hi, i did pass the paper one, but i did find it more easyer then the online one

 

[Vinay]

Hello everyone
After reading all this i am feeling really bad about it feels like i should have read these before. I am also enrolled with NTC and about to reach first pre attendance exam. Any help with the questions will me much appreciated please. Anyone doing the course please can we be in the contact to go through this together?
Thanks

 

[Ovidiu31]

Hey... I'm still working through this assignment... how far through are you?

Do you want to exchange email or something and support each other to get it done asap?

Tom

Hello Tom I'm in the same situation I failed the 5 times the test health and safety assignment detached house refurbished version 4. Can you exchange rate or some help please

 

[Ovidiu31]

Hi fellas , im desperate i failed teh pre attendance test 3 times , ive noticed many ppl did, have anyone passed this test?can they share the results?
Is there a fb page, or a whats up group, or anything where ppl talk beside this forum, on how far they got, or helping each other?
Im also really curious , as they promised that in average they will put you to work after 9-12 months...is anyone in this situation? did they found a place to work?
If people are coming together to help each other like Tom and Green lid, im in aswell.
Thank you in advance.

Hello. Olso in the same situation I failed 5 times and don't cam more. ...the test health and safety assignment detached house refurbished version 4 I read so many books but still failed please can anyone help me with share the results.
Thanks .

 

[Dellboy1967]

hello i am on the same course as you did you pass the H+S online exam or the paper one any help with the paper on wouls be great thanks

how did you get on?
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Help!!! I cant believe this BS! Ive tried twice now and failed. Any help and support would be appreciated.

 

[JAWS]

how did you get on?
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Help!!! I cant believe this BS! Ive tried twice now and failed. Any help and support would be appreciated.

You didnt fail twice you most probably passed twice but the shady outfit you've choose to do your training with have to hold back on places.

 

[Darekk]

I am doing the NTC Electricans course NVQ 2 at the moment, I am also stuck on the bloody Health and Safety test and its a joke did it 2 times and failed , Im sure I will fail again.

 

[SamDuncan09]

I am doing the NTC Electricians course NVQ 2 at the moment, I am also stuck on the bloody Health and Safety test and its a joke did it 2 times and failed, I'm sure I will fail again.

Hello, I am also with NTC, and currently doing my 2nd year, I've finished all my TMA's, and am now waiting to do my final set of practical assessments for my Level 2 qualification.

I failed the health and safety pre-attendance test once, after which I found everyone saying the same things about it being dodgy, fixed etc.
All I can say is, I then sent them an email/webmail complaining, saying people claimed it's dodgy etc. I then got a phone call the next day from one of the tutor's reassuring my fears.

I then sat the test again, but the 2nd time I took as long as I needed, googling for the information and looking at the H&S documents in different tabs. Doing this took me a good couple of hours I think.

Either way, I passed the 2nd time. There is no score afterwards, just a pass or a fail, so I can't really help specifically as I don't know what I got right, wrong or anything in between. Nor do I have any idea whether it was related to me complaining or not as others have said about them holding people back.

All I will say is perhaps just send them a message and see what they say and just try and take your time with each individual question as they're purposely tricky to see if people are paying attention I think.

Good luck my friend.

I've attached a photo to show that it isn't a complete scam, and that you will progress once you manage to get passed the extremely annoying H&S Pre-attendance test.

 

[Pete999]

Hi all
New here, failed my exam for the third time this evening and I’m based in Manchester so not sure if the lack of local courses thing, if true, is something to do with it? I was sure I’d nailed the test, went back through to check and match up with previous questions,
Google and used the two pdf links they give you but failed. Two things annoy me, no pass mark given just pass or fail so not sure if you have to get 100% or 60%! And secondly two answers can basically mean the same. Has anyone else noticed/come across this? Anyone got any words of wisdom?
@Kyle88 - congrats!
Regards
Ollie

Got a copy of the questions asked Mate? interest only

 

[JAWS]

Hello, I am also with NTC, and currently doing my 2nd year, I've finished all my TMA's, and am now waiting to do my final set of practical assessments for my Level 2 qualification.

I failed the health and safety pre-attendance test once, after which I found everyone saying the same things about it being dodgy, fixed etc.
All I can say is, I then sent them an email/webmail complaining, saying people claimed it's dodgy etc. I then got a phone call the next day from one of the tutor's reassuring my fears.

I then sat the test again, but the 2nd time I took as long as I needed, googling for the information and looking at the H&S documents in different tabs. Doing this took me a good couple of hours I think.

Either way, I passed the 2nd time. There is no score afterwards, just a pass or a fail, so I can't really help specifically as I don't know what I got right, wrong or anything in between. Nor do I have any idea whether it was related to me complaining or not as others have said about them holding people back.

All I will say is perhaps just send them a message and see what they say and just try and take your time with each individual question as they're purposely tricky to see if people are paying attention I think.

Good luck my friend.

I've attached a photo to show that it isn't a complete scam, and that you will progress once you manage to get passed the extremely annoying H&S Pre-attendance test.

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God knows what H&S exam you're doing but the level 2 is 60% pass rate https://www.cityandguilds.com/-/med...ical_installation_qualification_handbook.ashx

 

[Dellboy1967]

Anyone done this exam? I'll be sitting it my second time on the 15/3 and my god it is impossible. So many ambiguous answers and things where i just wasn't sure (even tried referring to my notes!) Can anyone offer help/advice to get me through this stage, due to personal problems im half way through the course but not even half way through the material so really need to get through this ASAP! Thanks very much all!

Yep, in the end had to do a written assessment, which took me for ever. I’ve sent it in 3 weeks ago and still waiting for it to be marked.

 

[SamDuncan09]

God knows what H&S exam you're doing but the level 2 is 60% pass rate https://www.cityandguilds.com/-/med...ical_installation_qualification_handbook.ashx

Hey,

Yes that's the official qualification exam which is fine to do.

The one we're referring to is a test we need to do before we can do out first practical training (pre-attendance H&S) and although the providers always state it's a C&G test and they have nothing to do with it, it seems like you only pass when they want you too. As others state the questions are very ambiguous and multiple answers could all potentially be the correct answer.

The 601 isn't an issue and is completely different from what we are referring to here, but thank you very much for the file as that gives a good insight to the pass rates and other useful information for myself so thanks.

 

[ferg]

From previous posts on this issue over the years the evidence points towards the test being BS.

My understanding is that the provider does this purely as a delaying tactic and to put the blame on to the trainee for their own lack of capacity.

I may be wrong but..
If it looks like it, smells like it and tastes like it then it probably is....