Pre-election budget

[andyb]

strange how the only srplus the kast labour government ever had coincided with the scottish pratt selling off about 400 tons of gold.

The gold was sold over several auctions over 3 years for about £3.5b the surplus for those 3 years was over £37b

Not sure how much the sweaty sock sold, but he did sell it cheap and that is his legacy, I won't support him at all, I am just stating fact regarding a surplus, I only support Tony as you know, not gordon.

The gold was sold at the market price for the time on the open market by auctions.

 

[Guest77]

The gold was sold over several auctions over 3 years for about £3.5b the surplus for those 3 years was over £37b



The gold was sold at the market price for the time on the open market by auctions.

Well maybe, I don't really know either way, just telling you what rupert murdock and his tv presenters told us all at the time.

 

[Anthony S]

If the Gold never went up after the sale, no one would have anything to harp on about.
Surprised the moaners never bought plenty for themselves ?

Brown was always spot on with his growth forecast's, when Chancellor, fact.

In real terms the welfare bill as been the same for decades, this Government as not cut it all, fact.

 

[Guest77]

If the Gold never went up after the sale, no one would have anything to harp on about.
Surprised the moaners never bought plenty for themselves ?

Brown was always spot on with his growth forecast's, when Chancellor, fact.

In real terms the welfare bill as been the same for decades, this Government as not cut it all, fact.

I expect the tory fat cats bought loads of it and then shipped it off to off shore accounts.

 

[andyb]

This election will be difficult for me, I will never vote tory obviously, but think Milliband is a buffoon, Farage is a total --- but to his credit has changed politics in this country forever, the lib dems are finished and the greens are just a pointless vote for various reasons, very hard to know what to do, it must be labour, then again I might wake up on polling day and decide to stay home lol.

This election is all to easy for me, Labour by nature I have not voted for them since 1992. Could not vote for Blair & New Labour so I voted LibDems as a sort of protest vote.(I live in a Tory stronghold)
I've learnt my lesson so will only vote Labour now, at least until they swing to the right again, probably after this election if it goes badly for them. Then I'll vote Greens.

 

[Octopus]

If the Gold never went up after the sale, no one would have anything to harp on about.
Surprised the moaners never bought plenty for themselves ?

Brown was always spot on with his growth forecast's, when Chancellor, fact.

In real terms the welfare bill as been the same for decades, this Government as not cut it all, fact.

Oh dear, another rose tinted glasses baffoon.

 

[Anthony S]

Oh dear, another rose tinted glasses baffoon.

I'm not even a Labour voter, just stating he got his Growth Forecast right.

I'm guessing your Tory ?

 

[newtothis]

In my opinion, tt’s a ‘Hobson’s choice’ between Champagne Socialists, Hooray Henrys, Fib dems, Ukip and the lesbian vampire killers. I’m voting LVK ! :sifone:

 

[Octopus]

I'm not even a Labour voter, just stating he got his Growth Forecast right.

I'm guessing your Tory ?

No. I'm just VERY interested in all forms of Politics and misrepresentation of the facts is something they all do so I'm simply using my knowledge to try and get the facts straight.

Like yesterdays budget, the Conservatives say one thing, using one set of numbers, the Labour Party say something else using another set of numbers, and today the Liberals have said another thing, using a different set of numbers.

If they keep on spinning they will all get very dizzy

WHAT IS THE TRUTH??

 

[Guest77]

I'm not even a Labour voter, just stating he got his Growth Forecast right.

I'm guessing your Tory ?

Is the pope Catholic?

 

[andyb]

WHAT IS THE TRUTH??

I'll give you the truth

I'm going down the pub.

Though I'm not sure you're ready for it.

 

[Octopus]

I'll give you the truth

I'm going down the pub.

Though I'm not sure you're ready for it.

there is no truth when it comes to Politicians...

 

[Diddy]

I think Brown was the unluckiest PM ever. I also think he would have been a good PM if he had the job to start with. The "deal" between him and Blair destroyed him. He was tortured by it....It consumed him (Taken from some political memoirs I have read). The economy was going just "fine" until the crash. It was his spending just prior to taking over (An attempt at prompting feel good factor for the start of his premiership.)...that IMHO is what stuffed up what could have been a great legacy. That coupled with the fact that the "job" proved too big for him, I think it would have been easier for him 10 years previous.
He got a ton of inherited problems with regards to the voters turning on Labour as the reality of two wars was hitting home. He had floods, he had foot in mouth disease....and then just incase he weren't paying attention he copped the banking crisis.
Blair became obsessed with the world stage, where I think Brown would have contented himself with keeping the UK safe.
As said I have read some memoirs from this period and it has been said that the action taken by Brown and Darling actually saved the world banking system. Apparently they had drawn up plans to deploy troops on the streets prior to coming up with the refinancing bailout plan. They really feared that banks were not going to open their doors from the Monday onwards....with no bugger having access to ANY cash. Now as much as we all hate the bank bailout.....not having any cash would have been a bit of a pain.....
"They" buggered up a few things with the bailout....ie people should have been in the dock, lost their bonuses, lost their pensions.....but "they" bottled that as unbelievably even at the final hour bankers were holding out for a better deal...denying that there were any problems.....So they had to be sweetened as part of the deal.....Bloody outrageous. They should have threw the chancers behind bars to await trial and got on without them.
But yep I will stand up for Brown.
I await the back lash. :}

 

[Octopus]

I think Brown was the unluckiest PM ever. I also think he would have been a good PM if he had the job to start with. The "deal" between him and Blair destroyed him. He was tortured by it....It consumed him (Taken from some political memoirs I have read). The economy was going just "fine" until the crash. It was his spending just prior to taking over (An attempt at prompting feel good factor for the start of his premiership.)...that IMHO is what stuffed up what could have been a great legacy. That coupled with the fact that the "job" proved too big for him, I think it would have been easier for him 10 years previous.
He got a ton of inherited problems with regards to the voters turning on Labour as the reality of two wars was hitting home. He had floods, he had foot in mouth disease....and then just incase he weren't paying attention he copped the banking crisis.
Blair became obsessed with the world stage, where I think Brown would have contented himself with keeping the UK safe.
As said I have read some memoirs from this period and it has been said that the action taken by Brown and Darling actually saved the world banking system. Apparently they had drawn up plans to deploy troops on the streets prior to coming up with the refinancing bailout plan. They really feared that banks were not going to open their doors from the Monday onwards....with no bugger having access to ANY cash. Now as much as we all hate the bank bailout.....not having any cash would have been a bit of a pain.....
"They" buggered up a few things with the bailout....ie people should have been in the dock, lost their bonuses, lost their pensions.....but "they" bottled that as unbelievably even at the final hour bankers were holding out for a better deal...denying that there were any problems.....So they had to be sweetened as part of the deal.....Bloody outrageous. They should have threw the chancers behind bars to await trial and got on without them.
But yep I will stand up for Brown.
I await the back lash. :}

Theres always one!

 

[andyb]

Theres always one!

I'll make that two.