Predicament do i ?

[Desmond.22]

Guys.

Did some work on a customers site long story but whilst there we watched as their on site electricians doing some routine work.

Replacing switches and sockets for chrome ones. Anyway they where using a table lamp to prove sockets dead and shouting "thats it" as the lights turned out to check the switches other bloke at DB.

Obviously not safe isolation but do i mention to his manager as we are only contracting and could cause loads of issues ?

 

[tlangdon12]

I think I'd talk to the electricians first to see if they have a choice about how they are working, just so you know where the problem lies.

 

[Wilko]

As they’re not exactly hiding what they’re doing, I’d assume management knows.

 

[Deleted member 105166]

Make a point of them seeing you lock off the circuits you are working on and using your 2-pole tester. They may ask what you’re doing and learn something.

 

[pirate]

Just because the lamp goes out doesn't necessarily signify the circuit is dead

 

[plugsandsparks]

I think there are two issues here, identifying the relevant breaker and then proving dead. I have circuit finder stuff but generally i grab either a radio or something that lights up which i can see. Once the device either goes quiet or goes out i then do normal checks. Hard part has been done. Occasionally i challenge myself to work out from the crazy labelling the likely probability of getting the right breaker first or second time. I am talking boards with 40 plus breakers in.

 

[westward10]

If it is not going to affect your safety let them crack on.

 

[westward10]

@Megawatt you are side tracking this thread with information which is not relevant to UK practices. Whilst we appreciate you are currently interested in comparing are practices with yours this is not the thread for it.

 

[Megawatt]

@Megawatt you are side tracking this thread with information which is not relevant to UK practices. Whilst we appreciate you are currently interested in comparing are practices with yours this is not the thread for it.

Westward I’ll be a good little boy and play nice

 

[MJPD29]

I agree with westward I tend to keep myself to myself unless it is directly affecting me

 

[Des 56]

In the days "before" test meters were readily available,it was no big deal at all to use a set of test lamps to see if a cable was live

Sometimes the diligent spark may have bunged what would hopefully be the dead live cores to earth ( that is after closing his eyes)
Surprisingly it was very often used as a universal means of checking the power was off by many many sparks
Lets not hang the guys just yet,they may have been around in olden times and can't shake off the bad habits

 

[bigspark17]

He who sticks his nose into a beehive will get more than a nostril full of honey.

 

[ipf]

In the days "before" test meters were readily available,it was no big deal at all to use a set of test lamps to see if a cable was live

Surprisingly it was very often used as a universal means of checking the power was off by many many sparks
Lets not hang the guys just yet,they may have been around in olden times and can't shake off the bad habits

It must be 40 years since I first got hold of a Martindale plug tester, though, Des. They are testing sockets, after all.

…..not that it's any of my business...….leave 'em to it.

 

[Andy78]

You could go the passive route and pin up some laminated safe isolation procedure notices around the place. Make it subtle though, like gaffer taped to the sparks' kettle.

 

[telectrix]

You could go the passive route and pin up some laminated safe isolation procedure notices around the place. Make it subtle though, like gaffer taped to the sparks' kettle.

or pinch their table lamp, then they could use the kettle to test with.