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So is there times that you would test others work or only your work

ONLY if I was doing an EICR and its not testing others work, its just reporting on the condition of the property.

Are you making this deliberately difficult to understand wtf you are on about?
 
ONLY if I was doing an EICR and its not testing others work, its just reporting on the condition of the property.
I don't see the difference between testing work done by someone last week and work done 20 years ago. If you're doing an EICR, the age of the installation doesn't fundamentally affect the testing and inspection that you do. If whoever needs the paperwork is happy to pay for an EICR, then why not do it? Obviously, they need to understand that it is a report, not a certificate, and that there are limitations in the scope that aren't present when producing an EIC.
 
I don't see the difference between testing work done by someone last week and work done 20 years ago. If you're doing an EICR, the age of the installation doesn't fundamentally affect the testing and inspection that you do. If whoever needs the paperwork is happy to pay for an EICR, then why not do it? Obviously, they need to understand that it is a report, not a certificate, and that there are limitations in the scope that aren't present when producing an EIC.

I think the OP is asking about doing an EIC for someone else's work. Obviously, as you say, the install could be 2 weeks or 20 years old but it is still an EICR and yes technically, you are testing someone else work, unless it was you that did the original install 2 weeks or 20 years ago! But you are still just reporting on the condition of the install now.

Jay
 
We are almost always testing other people work. I've not done every install and alteration in my local area for sure.
An EIC certifies that the installation meets the required specs and will have had to include all the elements in its construction (unless design and installation are signed off by others).
All elements are inspected and tested.
For an EICR we are only required to test a proportion of the install based on what the client wants and what we find as we inspect and test. The assumption is that the installation is currently in service and we are checking its still safe to remain in service. And EIC we don't know the installation is safe until we test it as its never been in service.

I would imagine a request to do an EICR on a system that has evidence of uncertified and probably untested alterations and additions would ensure more detailed examination of those areas but even then its often not possible at that stage to access everything that can and should be during an EICR.
 
The guy is asking about cost of retesting. You don't retest the whole installation. You just test the parts that you have fixed and issue a EIC or MW. Referencing the original EICR on your certificates.
 
My response assumed no EICR exists as is often the case.
 
At the end of the day there are people who do almost no tests and charge peanuts, and there are people who will do it properly and charge correctly....

I always visit a site before I agree a price as you can well and truly mislead by a caller on the phone....
well put
 
Just been reading this thread, Iv had plenty of experience testing and inspecting but not so much in regards to quoting it. Domestic wise I'm happy with my rate and find if people want a proper job done they will pay the correct rate if not then I don't want the work thankyou! However I just wondered if anyone on here has advise regarding commercial rates.

I appreciate that there is more to testing than readings of circuits etc, but I have tried to come up with a price per circuit and go from there. I'm looking at 175 circuits and based on what I assume is a reasonable rate that's ÂŁ2362.50 + VAT my reason for this price per circuit is many but I have looked at the job, have done previous work at the site and I do have previous test results (albeit having LIM LIM LIM everywhere on it and every excuse including rats to get out of taking a fuseboard cover off let alone dusting of his test kit) my agreed limitations are that high level lighting (its a warehouse with offices) are going to be tested at the most accessible point unless Lifter and extra labour is agreed and that trade specific circuits i.e server rooms and office circuits are shutdown for testing or a live reading will only be taken and further investigation quote submitted for these circuits at a more convenient time. I appreciate that you cant quote this for me but any advise would be welcome.

Iv been asked to look into this as the client has become suspicious of the antics of the previous company carrying out the EICRs which to be quite honest are Sh**, and wants an honest opinion on the state of there many premises.
 
Hi remember if you are testing other people's work as an Electrical Condition Report that your insurance must cover that. Often it only covers testing your own work, worth checking out as my business partner was caught out once with his insurance which was via NICIEC. Especially on a site you don't know it's amazing at some of the bodges I have found during testing. The ice cream container junction box was good even had grommets for cables and twisted together joints with masking tape and electrical tape,(masking tape was on the cpc) never seen that before. As said proper tests take time and electrical experience for tests to be worth something.
 

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