Pricing.

[Dave Appleby]

Usual an I too high question.

Before I say what I quoted....

Pricing please to change 140 flat panel ceiling lights for led.

Panals supplied but nothing else. No switching or zone changes. Apparently no other trades in

Full small supermarket but closed for change of ownership.

36 hours available for job including overnight.

Over to you.

Thanks
Dave

 

[Dave Appleby]

Thanks everyone.

I think a consensus has been reached.

1) I'm cheap
2) I wonder if there's anywhere for the horses to eat.

 

[Dave Appleby]

Thanks everyone.

I think a consensus has been reached.

1) I'm cheap
2) I wonder if there's anywhere for the horses to eat.

Regarding point 1.
Yes I know...
I immediately noticed the connotations, do your worst...

 

[Dustydazzler]

i done some in 4 Spar Stores. all straightforward, between 2 and 30 panels per store. I charged £20 per panel and end of the the day, was too cheap. should have been £30 each. so on that basis, OP's job for 140 comes out at £4200. but on a bigger job, this could be shaved a bit, so £3500 is about right. Customer to dispose of the scrap.

We have all been there Tel and well under estimated a job. I did a load of panel light swaps a while ago and like you I quoted over the phone £20 per light labour only (I did this over the phone rookie mistake). The job was a pig of a job, I had to move loads of carp to get to the light switches, some of the ceiling was knackered so the lights were a pig to replace.
All in all I should have estimated £45 per light.

Funny how we only regret the jobs we underprice , we never regret the ones we over price

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I have just quoted for a job doing similar - replacing 130 or so lights and my quote was for supply of good quality colour changing led panels, fittings, waste disposal, skip hire and and labour. all in it came in at nearly 7K....
client currently asking me what my availability is so they haven't run a mile from the headline price... as i broke it down by saying x lights over y days is approx z minutes per light which is reflected in the labour cost and days required.
If somebody is offering to do it for 600 quid then its either something to keep the workers busy as there is no other work ,better to be making a small loss and cover some of the wages and bills than have no income coming in mentality or its unqualified labourers cash in hand work.

 

[Dave Appleby]

I have just quoted for a job doing similar - replacing 130 or so lights and my quote was for supply of good quality colour changing led panels, fittings, waste disposal, skip hire and and labour. all in it came in at nearly 7K....
client currently asking me what my availability is so they haven't run a mile from the headline price... as i broke it down by saying x lights over y days is approx z minutes per light which is reflected in the labour cost and days required.
If somebody is offering to do it for 600 quid then its either something to keep the workers busy as there is no other work ,better to be making a small loss and cover some of the wages and bills than have no income coming in mentality or its unqualified labourers cash in hand work.

I suspect the latter

 

[Dustydazzler]

I would rather make no money and sign on the rock n roll than work at a loss

 

[Dave Appleby]

And......

Guess who called me at 11 last night?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

 

[timhoward]

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Not Bueller, he would have been on line 2

 

[DPG]

Free Ferris!

 

[nicebutdim]

And......

Guess who called me at 11 last night?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

I'd have paid good money to listen in on that call.

 

[Dave Appleby]

I'd have paid good money to listen in on that call.

Wasn't actually very long... ??

 

[Electrics]

£600 would be below min wage

Nah, 36 hours for the job, £600/36 = £16.66/hr.

Which is crap money for the job but someone's obviously happy with it.

 

[Dave Appleby]

 

[Vortigern]

140 x 60 £8400 plus disposal at £3 per tube 560 x 3 1680 (optional) Sensors, change switch arrangement, sort out any probs 1k to 3 K around 14k in all. Never been interested in prices that don't motivate me and make profit. Based on 20 mins per fit. That is with panels. Without - 3.5k less. No disposal less 1680. bringing it down to circa 8-10k

 

[123]

Nah, 36 hours for the job, £600/36 = £16.66/hr.

Which is crap money for the job but someone's obviously happy with it.

You are assuming 1 person could do it and no materials would need to be supplied, it's not necessarily purely labour only. As per post #14 its £4.29 a fitting. Add in something like a click flow, and it's down to about £2 a fitting.

As the OP has been called again, I guess it's all not worked out too well???