Probably will be a daft question, but being an oldie I'll ask it anyway

[Pete999]

What constitutes an "Approved Electrician "these days? when I was working it meant you had at least the C&Gs B certificate, 27 years old+ with a certain amount of years experience.
Is it something to do with being an Approved contractor?

 

[JAWS]

Cheers Pete.

 

[sham]

I'm not sure about this deal that the NICEIC have with the JIB now though.
If you are an NICEIC member (which requires little training)
I believe you can bypass all the whole NVQ, AM2, 2391 and apply for your gold card after you have had a few satisfactory inspections..

Not sure you can get the JIB "approved grading " but a gold card none the less..
Maybe someone else can clarify, kinda makes a bit of a mockery of it though.

Yes, that is correctamundo, my gold card should be with me by next week. The ECS card seems to be more popular with employers than Being Approved Electrician with NICSHIT. Oh and 1% of the price.

 

[sham]

I'm not sure about this deal that the NICEIC have with the JIB now though.
If you are an NICEIC member (which requires little training)
I believe you can bypass all the whole NVQ, AM2, 2391 and apply for your gold card after you have had a few satisfactory inspections..

Not sure you can get the JIB "approved grading " but a gold card none the less..
Maybe someone else can clarify, kinda makes a bit of a mockery of it though.

Yes, that is correctamundo, my gold card should be with me by next week. The ECS card seems to be more popular with employers than Being Approved Electrician with NICSHIT. Oh and 1% of the price.

 

[sham]

If anybody tells me that they are an approved electrician, I assume it means they are part of a scheme, Elecsa, Part P, ECA and all the others. If they say they are a qualified electrician, that means to me that they did their courses at college and that's it. All Approved Electrician or Certified Electrician will say they are an approved electrician that carry out certificates than to say I'm just qualified. That is how I interpret.

 

[Pete999]

If anybody tells me that they are an approved electrician, I assume it means they are part of a scheme, Elecsa, Part P, ECA and all the others. If they say they are a qualified electrician, that means to me that they did their courses at college and that's it. All Approved Electrician or Certified Electrician will say they are an approved electrician that carry out certificates than to say I'm just qualified. That is how I interpret.

I dissagreed with the second part of you post Mate, anyone can call themselve Approved these days.

 

[sham]

That's ok, The reason I say that is because of the meaning of the word Approved. In the case of the NICEIC who seem to have some Authority to say, we have approved him. His a ''Made Man'' lol.

 

[AJshep]

The JIB grading "Approved" isn't the best terminology really..
You could be approved by anything.

Approved by NIC, Napit Storma .
Approved by A letting agent.
Approved by Checkatrade.
Approved by Trustmark.

Although JIB have now got this ECS registered electricain scheme where members of the public can look up your quals. But it looks a bit of a pain as you need the Gold card holders card number ?
Personally I think more should be done so members of the public can check out our qualifications.

I did my 2360 Part 1 and 2 it was pretty hard.. I think only 4 of us out of 30 passed. I bet it was even harder when it was part A and B.

My old teacher Pete Tanner, told us outright that the exams were hard for a reason. He was a great teacher and a member of the IET and used to moan about up and coming changes to the courses but I believe the college's were government funded and the funding was only received when the apprentice passed.

I think this is why they made it easier, I

Here he is talking about City and Guild the video made me laugh, as i remember him in the classroom 21 years ago...you can still tell what he thinks.
https://tv.------.org/?videoid=8029

 

[Pete999]

That's ok, The reason I say that is because of the meaning of the word Approved. In the case of the NICEIC who seem to have some Authority to say, we have approved him. His a ''Made Man'' lol.

Personally there is a simple answer in my opinion:
1) The person is describing Him/Her self as an Approved Electrician, who has completed all the qualifications and experience that has allowed Him/ Her to use that title.
2) The Person wishes He/She was / is an Approved Electrician, and is using the missnomer created by NICEIC, and the other Schemes, as an Approved Contractor, or Approved by so and so there is a difference, although Joe public don't realise it.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Hmm, title says ‘students guide to the wiring regulations’?

 

[AJshep]

I think that particular video was just talking about his book.

 

[PEG]

Mmmmm,i'll take being "appreciated" above being "approved",any day of the week...

I am not a number...I'm a free man

 

[sham]

When people ask you are you approved or certified, They are asking can you sign off your own work and notify building control. When I look at jobs advertisements, they ask if you are qualified to 17th edition and if you have ECS or CSCS these jobs are mainly under supervision or limited. Other advertisements will ask you if you are an approved electrician and the job is to be a Tester and Inspector and to sign off your own works so they don't have to. This is what I base my opinion on.

 

[telectrix]

some confusion between approved electrician and the niceic title of approved contractor. 2 entirely different meanings.

 

[JAWS]

That Thomas Nagy fella on YouTube done all his apprenticeships etc yet when you look up him he comes as approved contractor.

All quite confusing

 

[Pete999]

That Thomas Nagy fella on YouTube done all his apprenticeships etc yet when you look up him he comes as approved contractor.

All quite confusing

Not really Thomas could be an Approved contractor, with his turnover don't suppose he is bothered, what you call him. He might be an Approved Electrician, but his NICEIC Sticker calls him an Approved contractor.