problem in the pub

[colshaws]

Hi all
The manager of my local has been begging the owners to do something about the state of the wiring in the pub, I am, as some would say a Electrical Trainee DI so know nothing on the regs regarding pubs. I have seen an open ceiling rose with a cable extended to the light over the pool table, this ceiling rose is in easy reach of an extended arm and therfore totally dangerouse ie. exposed conductive parts, this is one of a number of many problems. The manager is at the point where he is ready to get the pub closed until the place is made safe and wants to know who he can report this to (annonamously) who will have the power to force the owners to make the place safe.

 

[ruston]

yhhmm....handy if you can get it..:drool5:

Lol I got two pints an a sarnie , hope it goes again lol.

 

[Guitarist]

well if the O/P plays this right...he may get any remedial works that need to be carried out...thats after an EICR he does identifies any non-conformance...he gets paid...and appears as the `white knight` in the local community....pub n all that lot..lol....

Or..... he could be the guy who got the village local shut down.....

 

[sparks1973]

Or..... he could be the guy who got the village local shut down.....

now that would be a witchhunt....you`d have all the yokels and peasants with pitchforks...

 

[sparks1973]

 

[Des 56]

If he sets the complaints ball in motion,he could get the pub shut ouch
If he stays silent,he is an expert who did or said nothing, whilst the locals had a premature and possibly happy drunken death ouch again

The sparks lot is far from rosy
I think I would cover all my options, just drink the ale, learn first aid, then do the remedials after the funerals

 

[sedgy34]

you have took your eye off your glass mate,stay focused until the 6th pint

 

[ruston]

If he sets the complaints ball in motion,he could get the pub shut ouch
If he stays silent,he is an expert who did or said nothing, whilst the locals had a premature and possibly happy drunken death ouch again

The sparks lot is far from rosy
I think I would cover all my options, just drink the ale, learn first aid, then do the remedials after the funerals

I find the biggest shock is when a pay for the round.

 

[Guitarist]

Your trousers are a tad short, sparks.

 

[Adam W]

any 1s found would need sorting Adam before the general public were allowed in i would say.....

Ideally yes, but the electrician who carries out the work will expect to be paid for it, the manager is unlikely to want/unable to pay out of his pocket and would probably get a bit of a telling-off if he were to suddenly decide to shut up shop indefinitely on the say-so of one of the regulars.
Saying 'it would need sorting' is all good and well, but it's more a case of speaking to the right person to get the wheels in motion.

 

[sparks1973]

Ideally yes, but the electrician who carries out the work will expect to be paid for it, the manager is unlikely to want/unable to pay out of his pocket and would probably get a bit of a telling-off if he were to suddenly decide to shut up shop indefinitely on the say-so of one of the regulars.
Saying 'it would need sorting' is all good and well, but it's more a case of speaking to the right person to get the wheels in motion.

indeed Adam....you can`t FORCE anyone to have works done they dont want doing.....which is why the danger notice is the way forward....at least then the relevent people with authority to order the test/works to be carried out have been made aware.....and the electrician who witnessed the dangerous state of affairs has covered himself by it......

 

[trev]

If he issues the danger notice it's him in the firing line from the locals if the worst happens and the place gets shut down but emails to environmental health, fire service and licencing authorities put him in the clear and are anonymous as they will not disclose who the tip off came from. All he has to do is keep a copy of the emails in his sent folder.
Another point worthy of consideration is the OP is a DI and therefore not fully conversant with installations in commercial premises. Another get out clause for him should he need it

 

[Guitarist]

I wonder how many Detective Inspectors are conversant with any installation?

 

[trev]

I know a detective sergeant who knows his way around an installation. I was at college with him when we were serving our apprenticeships, then he jumped ship and joined the force.
He's looking at retiring next year with a nice fat pay off and a good pension, whereas I will still be doing the job I......love?

 

[sparks1973]

I know a detective sergeant who knows his way around an installation. I was at college with him when we were serving our apprenticeships, then he jumped ship and joined the force.
He's looking at retiring next year with a nice fat pay off and a good pension, whereas I will still be doing the job I......love?

but the good ship `electra` hasn`t sunk....yet

 

[Guitarist]

I know a detective sergeant who knows his way around an installation. I was at college with him when we were serving our apprenticeships, then he jumped ship and joined the force.
He's looking at retiring next year with a nice fat pay off and a good pension, whereas I will still be doing the job I......love?

Plus, you have to still work on installations which are "criminal", whereas he got to arrest the b*****ds.