PRS registration to carry out EICRs

[bill01803]

It would appear you have to register with the government to carry out EICRs in the private rental sector

 

[snowhead]

According to NICEIC, landlord simply has to confirm experience, insurance and that inspector holds 18th ed regs. That's not on the MHCLG website yet AFAICT, - (but NICEIC imply it will be).

It is on the Gov weblink for Landlords, Section 5, in fact it DOES NOT mention the PRS;

Guide for landlords: electrical safety standards in the private rented sector

www.gov.uk

The electrical safety industry has established competent person schemes. Membership of these will not be compulsory to ensure there is no further pressure placed on the industry, nor undue burden placed on inspectors and testers.

When commissioning an inspection, in order to establish if a person is qualified and competent landlords can:

• check if the inspector is a member of a competent person scheme; or
• require the inspector to sign a checklist certifying their competence, including their experience, whether they have adequate insurance and hold a qualification covering the current version of the Wiring Regulations and the periodic inspection, testing and certification of electrical installations.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Hi I've carried out Periodic Tests and inspection work for over 20 years and have never found it a requirement to belong to any scheme..nether do I think it is desirable...most of us have gone through training to become sparks and to carry out testing ..I see no reason why we need someone else looking over our shoulders. I feel that if enough of the trade simply ignore this rubbish sooner or later officialdom will get bored and leave us alone to do what we do best. I am not a member of any scheme and I must admit the cost of membership is way beyond my means...this does however not prevent me carrying out my work as I have always done . My experience is that after an initial period of reminding me to issue some sort of notification both the customer and the local authority get bored and go away

Pfft, cause that’s the right solution isn’t it. Ignore it till it goes away. Feel sorry for your clients.

 

[Brian Taylor]

Pfft, cause that’s the right solution isn’t it. Ignore it till it goes away. Feel sorry for your clients.

if we all did a bit more ignoring of overbearing officialdom we all be a lot better off...the more we panda to these jobsworths the less they'd interfere in our lives.

 

[Brian Taylor]

if we all did a bit more ignoring of overbearing officialdom we all be a lot better off...the more we panda to these jobsworths the less they'd interfere in our lives.

Sorry meant more they interfere

 

[Brian Taylor]

I was just reading this up today. It appears to not be mandatory, but landlords will be encouraged to pick off the register. I do probably only 3-4 EICR's a year. It's a useful source of extra income though, especially since ~ 80% of them need additional works to get through.

Problem is, the PRS register becomes another revenue earner for the schemes, and will be another paid-for half day assessment each year. For me at least, it might turn up that the last EICR I did was four months ago, (not exactly easy for the assessor, or for me to argue for another access). It's hard enough getting access and turfing out residents and switching their power off for a day just the once. Many of my friendly domestic customers put up with an annual inspection visit, but I'm not sure that landlords would be happy with repeat visits for an assessment. They'd have to set it all up in advance and agree it with their tenants. What a pain.

I will speak to my scheme about this, but TBH, will probably not bother, and just point out widely as I can on my website and twitter etc that PRS register is not necessary. According to NICEIC, landlord simply has to confirm experience, insurance and that inspector holds 18th ed regs. That's not on the MHCLG website yet AFAICT, - (but NICEIC imply it will be).

Reading your last message am i correct in thinking that these new tests have to be carried out on an annual basis ?

 

[Brian Taylor]

I would respectfully suggest that you cannot possibly be charging a sensible rate if it is beyond your means. I find that each of the bodies with which I am registered add value to my business, and that is why I am registered with them.

Well I definitely wouldn't contemplate belonging to the NIC. ..having dealt with them in the past as a qualifying manager i was not impressed with them and consider them to be just overpriced nitpickers. Unfortunately a lot of organisations have been brainwashed into thinking they are the bees knees when it comes to an inspecting organisation. I have belonged to Stroma in the past and found them to be far more pragmatic when I comes to inspections but this still costs about £150.00 each time they visit which has to be found from somewhere

 

[richy3333]

? Annual visits by a CPS is included in your annual charge or am I missing something?

 

[DPG]

Well I definitely wouldn't contemplate belonging to the NIC. ..having dealt with them in the past as a qualifying manager i was not impressed with them and consider them to be just overpriced nitpickers. Unfortunately a lot of organisations have been brainwashed into thinking they are the bees knees when it comes to an inspecting organisation. I have belonged to Stroma in the past and found them to be far more pragmatic when I comes to inspections but this still costs about £150.00 each time they visit which has to be found from somewhere

So am I getting this right? You don't notify your work?

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

if we all did a bit more ignoring of overbearing officialdom we all be a lot better off...the more we panda to these jobsworths the less they'd interfere in our lives.

NIC Are worry the £500 a year. Like it or not, they are.

 

[Brian Taylor]

So am I getting this right? You don't notify your work?

Well I do a certificate and leave it to the customer to deal with the council..it seems to work quite well
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? Annual visits by a CPS is included in your annual charge or am I missing something?

Well I won't say it's an annual visit i hadn't seen them for a couple of years but I guess the the current pandemic situation is partly to blame for that.

 

[DPG]

Well I do a certificate and leave it to the customer to deal with the council..it seems to work quite well
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Well I won't say it's an annual visit i hadn't seen them for a couple of years but I guess the the current pandemic situation is partly to blame for that.

Well it saves you the hassle and expense of being in a scheme.

 

[Vortigern]

Think I'll join the Brian scheme seems a lot cheaper and less hassle. Don't think the CEO of my main client would like it though.

 

[DPG]

Do any of your customers comment about having to deal with the council themselves? Or are they just happy that they've got a cheapo job done?

 

[Brian Taylor]

Do any of your customers comment about having to deal with the council themselves? Or are they just happy that they've got a cheapo job done?

I'm not sure I've never had any information to the contrary...the arrangement seems to work well, whether the customers actually contact the local authority i cannot say I leave that up to them

 

[DPG]

I'm not sure I've never had any information to the contrary...the arrangement seems to work well, whether the customers actually contact the local authority i cannot say I leave that up to them

Straight answer Brian, are you just trolling?