Pulling the main fuse :/

[liambaker996]

Hi guys i have been asked to change a consumer unit.
I have been told that pulling the fuse is not illegal as the Yorkshire Electricity Board just don't have the men to come out and pull everybody fuses who need it doing anymore.
i know this may cause debate and i will get the answer of "it was already off when you arrived" which yes it probably will be
just wondered if anybody had any conformation on this as all the other threads seem to be from a year to 3 ago.
Liam

 

[Engineer54]

The thing wrong with encouraging to cut seals and pull cut out fuses, is that we have so many fast track wannabe's out there, that won't have a clue when and more importantly when not to pull a cut out fuse!!

An old cast iron cut out, with one or more rewireable ceramic fuses, sort of springs to mind here!! Some of those even i would be more than a little hesitant to pull, especially if you can visually see any damage or tiny/hairline cracks in the fuse or it's holder!! Next fuse up the line, can be anything from 400 to 600A and well and truly loaded too!! lol!!

 

[D Skelton]

Out come the marigolds

 

[Engineer54]

Out come the marigolds

Last thing you would want to use, some of those kitchen gloves are known to be semi-conductive!!!

 

[D Skelton]

That was a joke Eng, c'mon, seriously?! Lol

 

[sparkdog]

Pair of welding gloves for me.

 

[Gazthesparky]

I've got a job coming up to replace the consumer unit and theres a white electronic key meter the ones you put in the blue and orange plastic key in fitted

Does anyone know if you remove power to it does it keep a record of the credit that's on the meter ? I'm guessing its got a battery backup memory so if there's a power cut it then rembers the credit/debt.

can anyone confirm this is the case ?

Cheers

 

[Jay Sparks]

I've got a job coming up to replace the consumer unit and theres a white electronic key meter the ones you put in the blue and orange plastic key in fitted

Does anyone know if you remove power to it does it keep a record of the credit that's on the meter ? I'm guessing its got a battery backup memory so if there's a power cut it then rembers the credit/debt.

can anyone confirm this is the case ?

Cheers

Think you have answered your own question there.

 

[SKY]

They have a little lithium battery is from memory.

 

[Jay Sparks]

The thing wrong with encouraging to cut seals and pull cut out fuses, is that we have so many fast track wannabe's out there, that won't have a clue when and more importantly when not to pull a cut out fuse!!

An old cast iron cut out, with one or more rewireable ceramic fuses, sort of springs to mind here!! Some of those even i would be more than a little hesitant to pull, especially if you can visually see any damage or tiny/hairline cracks in the fuse or it's holder!! Next fuse up the line, can be anything from 400 to 600A and well and truly loaded too!! lol!!

I came across one of these last year, in a factory. It was, I think a 100A, big thing it was. It was completely cracked in half and someone had written on it, in black marker, "Do not remove"...lol I strongly suggested they have the whole place EICR'd because there were 6 or 7 DB's and they all had porcelain fuses in em.

They politely said no to the EICR, as they didnt have the money for it.lol

 

[7029 dave]

No you don't, you haven't a clue what you're on about with all due respect.

Is that so? considering I work for the DNO!!

 

[D Skelton]

Is that so? considering I work for the DNO!!

I don't care who you work for, that is irrelevant, it might be the case that you need this cocopops certificate thingie to pull the fuse in your job (probably a H&S thing), but by law, no matter who you work for or what you do, you don't need anything to pull a fuse whether that be one in your DB or the main suppliers one, it is not illegal, it does not contravene any statutory or non statutory regulation nor do you breach any by-law. You commit no crime whatsoever by pulling an unsealed suppliers fuse!!!!

 

[7029 dave]

Nothing to do with h&s, You have to be authorised to work on dno's cutout by holding a MOCOPA certificate which is renewable every 3years.It is the dno's equipment solely,and it is only them who can withdraw the main fuse and reinstate weather sealed or unsealed end of.

 

[D Skelton]

You're talking out of your rear end. Yes you are correct that you need to have authorisation to work on their equipment and/or make alterations to their equipment as it is their property, this is even mentioned in the ESQCRs however removing a fuse is not working on their equipment nor is it altering it!!

Shame, I guess from now on all firemen have got to hold cocopops certification to pull main fuses too, if they don't they've just got to watch the property set alight and burn to the ground

 

[Des 56]

You're talking out of your rear end. Yes you are correct that you need to have authorisation to work on their equipment and/or make alterations to their equipment as it is their property, this is even mentioned in the ESQCRs however removing a fuse is not working on their equipment nor is it altering it!!

Shame, I guess from now on all firemen have got to hold cocopops certification to pull main fuses too, if they don't they've just got to watch the property set alight and burn to the ground

If it is an high level mains,that situation could only arise if the fireman has his cocopops smoke alarm certificate for climbing his steps in the first instance



Be careful out there,the H+S brigade may be waiting to pounce on this thread (if they have the correct "thread writing" certificate of course)we all know how obsessive they can be

 

[Daniel Cotter]

I can honestly say no one gives two ..... about cut seals unless there is suspicions of theft.