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Then there's the added complexity of the USA planning to Usurp them for oil.

The Israeli's want to nuke their nucleur facilities.

The Saudia's want to destabilise them.

Iraq's in a mess and close neighbours Syria are loosing the plot.

Time to invest in Ayatolla Bank plc? :0
 
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If that is the case - then each grandchild will claim a % of the installations.

Say 10 per yer - 5 Grandchildren
2 PVs per year

Expected 5 years max left Max - 10 max before he goes.

Potential of about £10,000 per year, which could always go towards increasing their lot to the 25 quota.
Just stumbled across this guidance from ofgem that says that plan won't work...

2.93. A ‗connected person‘ in relation to a FIT generator or a nominated recipient,
means any person connected to that person within the meaning of section 1122 of
the Corporation Tax Act 2010
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. These provisions are complicated and a full
explanation of them is beyond the scope of this guidance. Where participants or
prospective participants in the FIT scheme are assessing whether the multiinstallation tariffs may apply to them, it is suggested that they take independent
legal advice relevant to their circumstances. Below are some common illustrative
examples only of how a person (‗person A‘) may be a ‗connected person‘ in
relation to another person (‗person B‘):
Person A is person B‘s spouse or civil partner;
Person A is person B‘s relative;


Person A is a relative of person B‘s spouse or civil partner;
Person A is a spouse or civil partner of a relative of person B;
Person A and person B are both companies: and the same person (‗person C‘) has control over both;
Person A and person B are both companies; person C has control over
person A; and persons connected with C have control over person B;
 
Those within the market that presume (government included ) that prices will continue to tumble for PV installations are presuming to much for example - mounting systems are made from stainless steel or Aluminmum as these are raw materials when have you seen raw material prices fall ? panels part of the reason for cheaper panels now is over production in China which means they have to sell them off also now the americans are slapping a 30% import duty on them there will be more dumped in Europe but then what? once these run out prices will rise, With invertors yep you can purchase cheap one but will they perform and last like SMA etc? the other issue is labour costs in Germany they work on a 1,000 euro gross profit margin typically on a 4Kw system would UK compaines want to or afford to do that?
 
Those within the market that presume (government included ) that prices will continue to tumble for PV installations are presuming to much for example - mounting systems are made from stainless steel or Aluminmum as these are raw materials when have you seen raw material prices fall ? panels part of the reason for cheaper panels now is over production in China which means they have to sell them off also now the americans are slapping a 30% import duty on them there will be more dumped in Europe but then what? once these run out prices will rise, With invertors yep you can purchase cheap one but will they perform and last like SMA etc? the other issue is labour costs in Germany they work on a 1,000 euro gross profit margin typically on a 4Kw system would UK compaines want to or afford to do that?

At 1000 euro (£799 GBP) its obvious the answer is no, I could do a board change and put in an outside supply for a garage for that money, with just a years warranty and sleep soundly. The MCS and asociated costs, a large outlay in materials, VAT tieing up cash flow, weather holding you up, the downsides are large. If we have to compete at this level its only the national players that will be left.
 
At 1000 euro (£799 GBP) its obvious the answer is no, I could do a board change and put in an outside supply for a garage for that money, with just a years warranty and sleep soundly. The MCS and asociated costs, a large outlay in materials, VAT tieing up cash flow, weather holding you up, the downsides are large. If we have to compete at this level its only the national players that will be left.

Judging by some of the prices that some firms are quoting, they're already below £799
 
At 1000 euro (£799 GBP) its obvious the answer is no, I could do a board change and put in an outside supply for a garage for that money, with just a years warranty and sleep soundly. The MCS and asociated costs, a large outlay in materials, VAT tieing up cash flow, weather holding you up, the downsides are large. If we have to compete at this level its only the national players that will be left.

The way the Germans do it is different they have work five days a week every week of the year the way I see it is 4,000 euro per week per installation team presuming one install per day
 
German example has potential if the business is there but with an average of one installation per installer for the whole of April somehow I don't think we're operating in the same market!
 
German example has potential if the business is there but with an average of one installation per installer for the whole of April somehow I don't think we're operating in the same market!


Hey i agree with you unlike the German government the UK government has not been a supporter of the the PV industry since October last year they have created nothing but sceptism and uncertainty in a market with enough work potential for the next ten years. Did you read 40% of all domestic electricity used in Germany this weekend was generated by PV!

After the Nuclear disaster in Japan the German government became more commited to Solar as its a much safer and cheaper option to building Nuclear power plants in this country we cant make our minds up and unless we have a clear stratergy on energy we will wake up one morning and it will be like the 1970,s again with power cuts as our supply networks clapses under the strain
 
Profit margin is dependant on many factors but be careful on what kit you use and install remember they are good and bad products in this industry like all others for example

The panels have to be efficient and provide enough output to last 25 years
The mounting system has to have Euro approvals and be fit for purpose and installed as per the manufacturers specification
The inverter is the heartbeat of the system this needs to be reliable and efficient and again last a number of years

You dont want to go back again after you have installed the system unless its for maintenance purposes as you will eat into what profit you did make, i have issues with some kits out there at silly cheap prices - the mounting systems have not be designed for the specific roof you are installing in and i garrantee the panels and invertors will not be of the best standards available
 

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