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Our experience wasn't a very good one with them, we had a couple of occassions where we received a PV lead and then 10 minutes later the same person as a GSHP lead, even though the property was on mains gas, a 3 bed or 2 bed semi, with little or no outside space to put either ground loop or boreholes. When I questioned one of the leads they said "Oh the lady on the phone said it would be a good idea to get one as I wouldnt pay for any heating and I would earn about £1000 per year by having a GSHP"
My advice is to keep clear of them.
 
We don't entertain lead company's they are all parasites based on my experience

We initially liked lead generators with 50% conversion rate in 2010/2011 and built our company on the initial ones we did until we had more work than we could handle via our website and referrals.

Our order book is still pretty thin so we have been using the Solar guide for the last 3 months but our conversion rate this time has plummeted getting close to 10%. We put a huge amount into our quotes in terms of the initial survey and the design of the system but a struggling with the shinny suit brigade and companies that have high overheads and have taken a decision it is better to go in low and just cover them until things pick up.

We have tried print advertising and find the cost per lead converted is even higher than the lead generators because adverts generate very little for us.

We are trapped between being busy fools and not being busy waiting for website and referral leads. Any tips for better alternative to print advertising or lead generators?
 
Like Confounded our business was initially built on lead generators with a high conversion rate - we took 10 of them in the first 2 months (that's all there was in 2010 and we got 5 free in those days!!) and then had to turn them off because we referred to those customers' friends and family. The D rating hit us badly and we've struggled since then.

I've had one referral from Solar Guide in the last 9 months so I can't rely on them even if they were mint quality.

I wouldn't go to a referral agency for ashp it's too complex for a call centre to be able to filter effectively, if they can't ask the questions related to D rating then you've no chance with ashp. It's horses for courses really, they aren't specialists and from what I see a lot of installers get ashp info wrong so you couldn't really expect a call centre to get it right.

With us being rural, we're taking the view that we'll try to do as much as possible from our home based office to keep costs down and we've sort of returned to what we did to start off the business 3 years ago, with lower expectations and profit margins. We have a business mentor (provided free) who insists that people will still pay for the quality, personal service that we provide and the 2 jobs we have this week are testament to this.

To be honest the weather isn't helping, round our way people can't sell their houses, they are having a dabble with solar quotes then re-confirming that really they want to move. It seems in our area that at the start 14k was a lot of money but quite a few newly and early retired people had the cash. Although it's less than half now - people are so worried about job security that to spend 6-7k now is equivalent to 14k 3 years ago and our customers seem to be able to just about scrape that sort of money together but worry that they will need it to live on if the job goes.

For what it's worth I have a post grad in Marketing and quite a lot of marketing advice from when I set up and ran an advice centre. The big no's in terms of marketing are:
TV
Radio
Fliers through the door - hand delivered or Royal Mail (unless you do letters, 3 times consecutively over 6 weeks followed up by canvassers and with LA logos)
Any type of press advertising or advertorial

What appears to work but is getting harder: events through the Summer where people can meet you, website, social media (although it's a long haul) and networking.

We decided to work on lower margins but not to just cover costs it's going to be harder to increase prices later. Don't know if it's the right strategy .....

We need sun, an improved economy and E rating for rural properties!!
 

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