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I just think about cars from the sixties and how rubbish they were compared to now. With the advance in technology by now going to the moon should be as easy as flying to America. I'm 38 and there hasn't been a moon landing in my life time! I think they faked it to beat the Russians, I'll believe it when I see it for myself!!!
 
well I own a car from the sixties in fact I have owned it for 22 years
its never once let me down taken me all over europe on just regular servicing
plus if it does go wrong you can fix it
what you dont fit cant break
modern cars are an improvement and run for terrific mileages without much care and attention wheareas a classic car needs regular servicing however when the car was first designed they drove one for 30 thousand miles through europe without problem
good quality materials and basic construction are a bonus
 
so it's obviously not a metro, marina, escort, avenger, alpine, cortina, imp, french, or italian or it would be :001_9898: pile of rust in your garage.
 
i had the model before that. the old 1200 sunny. never let me down and it didn't rot
 
I watched it as a kid on a BW telly I will always remember it..Only now do i realise it's fake..if it was real I would have seen Engineer54 banging an earth rod in to the Moon rock getting his Ra down to the minimum...with a huge gazillion CSA Green / yellow E bond of 250,000 miles tapped to earth...

J
 
nope its a Morris Oxford series 5 just clicked up to 86K from new I am only the second owner
always been serviced its a long stroke engine so dates back to WW2 speed is not an option
but it happily cruises on the Strada at 55MPH
it diod have a little corrosion but then its Italian designed so what do you expect but I paid to have it properly repaired by a skilled craftsman and it continues to give good service
it does not have power steering but a big steering wheel instead
it has drum brakes that seems to work ok but no ABS you need intelligence and to consider the road surface and conditions
been over the alps to Italy no worries although it gets a bit hot
and no one under 45 could steal it cos they would not have a clue how to drive it
free road tax
goes up in value every year now worth at least ten quid with a tank of petrol
the radio has valves so I cant get Chris Evans so thats a bonus
and insurance aint alot plus I can find the thing in the huge car park in rome
you children of the digital age do not realise that things used ot work before digital systems but they were usually slower and needed human input
after all modern cars have ABS ( mine does) Traction control fantastic tyres adn brakes and heaters but you still manage to have accidents !!!
its just that in a car like mine you would most likely die if you drove like a wazzock round the one way system whereas a modern car will just protect you
I am not a luddite though I have a modern motorcycle fully EFi with 3 way cat etc and it does 70mpg touring europe
my bantam would probably not have got that far
as a young man ie bloody ages ago I travelled the Eastern bloc countries
seeing the cars in use they seemed crude almost the same as pre war cars here
I spoke to our host and said why are they so out of date lacking in modern things and style almost like trucks to drive
then he pointed out something the roads he said are often 500 miles between villages technical know how is on par with the horse
you need something a peasant can understand and repair in a blacksmiths workshop
I learnt a lot on those journeys
ps a friend of mine flies his own plane ( rich git)
its russiam with a radial engine a YAK i think
it was the standard russian trainign aircraft and has cable operated control systems but pneumatic braking
he opened the side panel to show me the radio set this thing was built in the 80s it has a huge valve radio with short wave bands and crystals
why I asked ??
if you are lost you can use oen fo the main short wave radio stations to get a direction finding point
also Valve receivers will continue to operate after a Nuclear war when static would shut down transistor systems
coem on you chaps Bleriot flew the channel in a home made plane using a 3 cylinder Italian motorcycle engine
what chance did he have !!
 
they were excellent cars my old firm had a fleer of the estates they ran for years and when the firm sold them off other staf members bought them to use as works vans
aha the good old days
I recall driving an A35 van
no heater
no interior light
it had a cycle headlight on the front seat
and it would never get you nicked for speeding
all that and cross ply tyres
it did over 70 thousand miles with idiots like me driving it
mind it never went above 50 mph
 
I just skimmed through this thread and the various conspiracy theory posts

Here is a link to the item that is used daily by BRITISH astrophysicists when laser measuring the moons distance. I suppose Jessica Ennis threw it there:death:

http://Ringed by footprints, sitting in the moondust, lies a 2-foot wide panel studded with 100 mirrors pointing at Earth: the "lunar laser ranging retroreflector array." Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong put it there on July 21, 1969, about an hour before the end of their final moonwalk. Thirty-five years later, it's the only Apollo science experiment still running.

I really find conspiracy theories on a par with Faulty Towers,its so silly it just has to be funny and no I don't wish to argue the point :6::grin:
 
so, we are to believe that it was real. those massages really did come 1/4 million miles from the moon. yet 43 years of advances in technology, and it's still proving impossible to get a mobile phone signal 3 miles from a mast to a mobile phone.
 
So assuming it was all a fake. As was asked earlier, how come not one person involved in this cover up of unfathomable size has come forward to debunk it.
The US government pumps billions of dollars into NASA every year, so why? just to win a US v Russia peeing contest.
It happened guys, Neil Armstrong was the first to set foot there and to claim otherwise is an insult not only to him but a great many others too
 
Not much to say that hasn't already been said. The word 'hero' and 'legend' are used far too often but this guy is worthy off them titles...I salute you Neil Armstrong. Met Buzz Aldrin once at Cape Canaveral, really nice guy - had some really interesting stories to tell about himself and Neil.
 

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