rcd in kitchen

[andrewcann]

hi all just want to check that i am right have been ask to check over another sparks work in a first floor flat all he has done is added 3 new sockets in the kitchen the only thing is it is a old ccu with rewireble fuse and no rcd as the cables are buried in the wall it needs to be on a rcd. one of the new sockets is spured of a old scocket chase in the wall and down down by 600mm and am i right in it still need to be on a rcd just wanted to make sure before i say anythink to the customer

 

[Octopus]

Isn't it nuts that there is still a debate about RCD's in domestic premises.

IMHO extra sockets = RCD protection. (and yes quoting to include RCD's has cost me business)!

 

[Q.S.]

The work above is notifiable as it is a kitchen under Part P. All the additions need to meet the regs to meet Part P therefore the LAW, so it needs RCD protection - 1) cables buried in walls less then 50mm and not in a nail/ screw prof conduit, 2) general purpose sockets rated 20 amps or less for use by home owner.
If the work was done less then 6 months ago then go after the electrician if more than that the home owner is likely to be prosecuted by building control. (max £5K fine + £50 for everyday it is not sorted!)

 

[Deleted member 9648]

The work above is notifiable as it is a kitchen under Part P. All the additions need to meet the regs to meet Part P therefore the LAW, so it needs RCD protection - 1) cables buried in walls less then 50mm and not in a nail/ screw prof conduit, 2) general purpose sockets rated 20 amps or less for use by home owner.
If the work was done less then 6 months ago then go after the electrician if more than that the home owner is likely to be prosecuted by building control. (max £5K fine + £50 for everyday it is not sorted!)

Just to clarify post #2 which I posted was not intended to suggest that RCD protection should be omitted for minor alterations such as the OP describes...But that I can sympathise with the view that providing RCD protection to the small additional work just to comply with the regs,when none of the rest of the install is protected,and wouldnt need to be prior to 2008....is plain daft.Of course the installer will want to cover his rear,but if you think about it this really defies logic....I was sincerely hoping that the BGB would clarify this and allow a competant person to assess the risks, and omit RCD protection to minor alterations to older installations, which are otherwise satisfactory and where the owner does not want the whole install updated.....As a result of this daftness we have RCD FCU's being installed all over the place for a light...or a socket...just because a new bit of buried cable a foot long has been added...and the rest of the install remains 'unprotected'.....just as it has for decades without the occupants dropping like flies.
That said Q.S is quite correct in what he says....except nobody polices part P so the chances of anyone being prosecuted are about nil.