Rcd outdoor skt.

[gregorabbott]

Hi guys quick question. Neighbour wants outdoor skt at garden shed. Her house has no rcd protection. Old rewirable fuse board. Cable to be buried underground. Going to spur off closest skt, then out to shed in armour cable. Without upgrading the fuse board is there any way I can rcd protect the armour cable? Taking the armour cable back to the fuse board and fitting a seperate rcd enclosure is practically impossible. Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[Simonslimline]

I think what winds people up so much is how often people post on this site claiming to be fully qualified electricians and then go on to ask basic questions that they really should know the answer to.

 

[Octopus]

Two points I'd make here: 1. To the original poster... I wouldn't touch this. I'd recommend a mains board replacement and cable back to it or I wouldn't do the job.2. Threads like this remind me why I'm an observer on this forum and any other like it. Wouldn't dream of asking anyone for advice on here just to get lambasted from every direction. Even if the guy is, in your opinion, a numpty, answer him calmly, even advise he gets someone who knows what he's doing, but the way you lot rip into people is ridiculous and makes you look rather pitiful I reckon.

This forum claims to be for practising electricians BUT its been over run by numpties and DIYers... and that's why its heading further down the pan every day.

 

[J@mes]

That may be but if I wasn't electrically minded and wanted a domestic electrical question answering, where would I go.....here. You want advice off people who know what they are doing, not other DIY'ers who are probably in the same boat as you.

It doesn't give people the excuse to take a dump on everyone who asks a question, as is the case with a few members on here.

If you want guaranteed genuine electricians as members, the Admin better start requesting qualification certificates, proof of professional body membership and setting an entrance test.

Or, people could either be helpful or be quiet....there's an idea.

 

[Octopus]

That may be but if I wasn't electrically minded and wanted a domestic electrical question answering, where would I go.....here. You want advice off people who know what they are doing, not other DIY'ers who are probably in the same boat as you.

It doesn't give people the excuse to take a dump on everyone who asks a question, as is the case with a few members on here.

If you want guaranteed genuine electricians as members, the Admin better start requesting qualification certificates, proof of professional body membership and setting an entrance test.

Or, people could either be helpful or be quiet....there's an idea.

Its a 2 way street matey, people start basic threads, then when responders ask simple questions they go unanswered or the OP's get shirty.. then the flack starts. Its up to posters to respond to questions BOTH WAYS. Simples.

 

[J@mes]

Definitely, but chances are that if a poster doesn't respond then they have realised they are out of their depth and it should be left at that, not turn in to a feeding frenzy by the long term members.

And sure, people get shirty, it appears mostly after a drilling from a long term member who then claims that person "can't take banter". One mans banter is another mans bullying. :yinyang:

 

[Octopus]

Definitely, but chances are that if a poster doesn't respond then they have realised they are out of their depth and it should be left at that, not turn in to a feeding frenzy by the long term members.

And sure, people get shirty, it appears mostly after a drilling from a long term member who then claims that person "can't take banter". One mans banter is another mans bullying. :yinyang:

crxp!!

 

[Simonslimline]

You need thick skin in the world we live in

 

[J@mes]

Don't worry, I have a thick skin no doubt. Nothing bothers me at all. But not everyone is the same. So should people be excluded from the job because they can't take endless torrents of abuse?

Where I work I've been the apprentice getting endless amounts of stick, I've been the bloke giving it out and I'm now the manager who has to oversee it all......and it's very very easy to see when one man's banter is another man's bullying.

If you can't see it, chances are you're the one who always thinks it's banter.....

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I must have missed something, or perhaps some posts have been deleted?
Who is it that was being a smart arse?

 

[davesparks]

Two points I'd make here: 1. To the original poster... I wouldn't touch this. I'd recommend a mains board replacement and cable back to it or I wouldn't do the job.2
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Why not? Seems like a perfectly simple 'socket in a garden shed' job. All the regulations can be met without upgrading the CU or any of the associated works.
So go ahead and quote the job as it is whilst also discussing the age and of the installation with the client including the merits of having a full EICR carried out.
If the existing installation is in good condition the. There isn't necessarily any grounds for replacing the existing fuseboard.

 

[Spoon]

I have to agree with James on his "One mans banter is another mans bullying" quote. It all depends on how you look at it.

Also have to agree with davespark comment on "If the existing installation is in good condition then there isn't necessarily any grounds for replacing the existing fuseboard". Ok it would be safer, but then again me upgrading my car to have side impact bags and all the other safety features that are out now would be safer, but I can afford it.