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[ragsta]

hi forumer's i got a quote today for £500 for

installation of a 12 way RCD consumer unit including issue Part P NICEIC Electrical Installation Certificate and Supervision. Additionally: "However what I failed to mention was the Registration fee and Part P Insurance of £100"

We've also agreed to rectify any faults to allow your RCD consumer unit to work normally without any further charges.

so thats another £100 on top. What exactly are these fee's for, are they mandatory, who is the money going to, is the quote reasonable?

I am in west london if that makes a difference. The background is that i've completed the ring with sockets/spurs all within 17th Ed. regs. and all visible to see. The same for the lighting circuit.

Thanks.

 

[DurhamSparky]

I noticed from his business card he is elecsa registered "elecsa -part p." and NICEIC Pir's, but in his reply its NICEIC - part p :S. Does anyone know judging on the cost of £500 what the insurance cost is meant to be, considering one member said its a rip off for notification and insurance.

Do Elecsa not provide a part p certification with supervision. Is that why he's going with an NICEIC part p?

HAHAHA the spark sounds a right con artist....!! Elecsa for Installs and "the NICEIC PIRS..." hahahahaha
do me a favour ragsta put your sparks details in here
http://www.competentperson.co.uk/search.asp
search for him and tell us who he is REALLY registered with......!! if he is elecsa registered he cant issue certs with NICEIC on them and vice versa... and considering the cost of what membership costs i will gurantee he wont be with both of them...!! one or the other..!

and there is NO such cert called a Part P Certificate with supervision..... you have either ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION CERTIFICATE or Nothing...!! and the certificate is exactly the same accross the UK Electrical world regardless of been Elecsa , NICEIC, Napit or Corgi....!!

sorry but i smell a RAT

 

[Geoffsd]

Firstly, Elecsa registered electricians do not charge you for insurance. They give you the information and it is up to you whether you want to take advantage of it - directly with the insurers, not the electrician.

There is no such thing as a NICEIC or Elecsa certificate. They are Electrical Installation certificates which may have the scheme logo on it. Obviously the schemes do not want their logo on the certificate if the contractor has not been registered with them. The certificate is part of the job: not an extra for which you pay.

Electricians are not allowed to certify other people's work. If the installer is willing then you could drill holes and chase walls where HE says it should be done but I would not be happy with you doing the wiring. If a third party is coming along after that to test it then a lot of it would have to be dismantled - so pointless.

If you think you can sign the design (construction/build as you call it) part of the certificate then I am sure you should have submitted plans to the Local Authority for approval before you started.

£500 for a new Consumer Unit may not be excessive for a large installation and a good CU.
However £100 to cover faults discovered after is not the correct way to do it. Any faults should be discovered before the CU fitting and either rectified as part of the job if small or discussed with you, the customer, to decide on the proper actions to be taken. This may cost a lot more than £100 so it's up to you, or more precisely the electrician if he has done no inspection, to take the chance.


Edit - I type too slowly.

 

[Johnny-G]

and there is NO such cert called a Part P Certificate with supervision....

I don't think that's what they're claiming to provide mate, that's just what they're quoting for ie. the installation of the CU, the issue of an EIC *plus* the supervision they've carried out whilst this chap's been doing the work & if they've had someone watching over him that would of course bump the price up, that's how I read it anyway
Still smells a bit off though...