Recently signed up for a Domestic Electrical Installer course, need help.

[jangb2000]

Hello,

I'm 19 and recently signed up for a domestic electrical installer course and like an idiot I haven't really researched it that well beforehand which I know I should have. My dad is an electrician in Germany and he seemed pretty happy with it so I just went for it. My question is essentially after this course will I be able to find work with the qualifications I will have gained, and they are:

• City & Guilds 2392
• City & Guilds 2382
• Part P Defined Scope
• There is also mention of City & Guilds 2393 in the book but not in the brochure and it is under the "Part P" part of the book so not sure if it has anything to do with that?

Thanks anyone in advance and if the thread is in a wrong part of the forum I'd like to apologise wasn't sure where to create this thanks.

 

[JAWS]

New Trades Career

New Trades Career. How much was the course BTW?

 

[jangb2000]

New Trades Career. How much was the course BTW?

around £2000 it's £180 a month

 

[telectrix]

around £2000 it's £180 a month

Christ, that's almost as much as my bar bill.

 

[JAWS]

around £2000 it's £180 a month

Did a salesman come round your house by any chance and sell you this course?

 

[garyt]

Thanks that what I'm wanting to do, just try my best, pass everything and then hopefully move on up. Thanks everyone for the help, definitely won't let it get me down and gonna do my best to eventually be fully qualified.
[automerge]1580663481[/automerge]
One last question, realistically what will I be able to do work-wise after the first year, Electricians mate? Some domestic work? etc.

Hi if you have passed the 2392, 2393, & 2382 18th regs, you can register to be a domestic installer under one of the

Hello,

I'm 19 and recently signed up for a domestic electrical installer course and like an idiot I haven't really researched it that well beforehand which I know I should have. My dad is an electrician in Germany and he seemed pretty happy with it so I just went for it. My question is essentially after this course will I be able to find work with the qualifications I will have gained, and they are:

• City & Guilds 2392
• City & Guilds 2382
• Part P Defined Scope
• There is also mention of City & Guilds 2393 in the book but not in the brochure and it is under the "Part P" part of the book so not sure if it has anything to do with that?

Thanks anyone in advance and if the thread is in a wrong part of the forum I'd like to apologise wasn't sure where to create this thanks.

Hi if you pass 2392,2382& now 2393 building regs taken over from part P for electrica,if you have the confidence you can then register for a domestic installer, & test your own work, i have heard that nappitt now requires a level 3 to register for testing roles.

 

[JAWS]

Hi if you have passed the 2392, 2393, & 2382 18th regs, you can register to be a domestic installer under one of the
Hi if you pass 2392,2382& now 2393 building regs taken over from part P for electrica,if you have the confidence you can then register for a domestic installer, & test your own work, i have heard that nappitt now requires a level 3 to register for testing roles.

You'll actually only need to have passed the BS7671 to join NICEIC as a DI and to prove you're skilled on your assessment in testing.

 

[Zerax]

I can totally sympathise with the OP... I personally think that the whole qualification/training structure is a total mess ! It's very difficult to understand progression with multiple routes and options... and even asking the many learned members of this esteemed forum gives multiple and contradictory advice. On top of that, it also depends on where you live... as not all colleges offer the full range of courses in FT/Day release/evening options.

Also, should a 16 yo school leaver that has never even picked up a screwdriver in their life be treated the same as someone who's 50 yo with an engineering degree and 30 years of technical and practical experience ?

Having shouted about the problem... I have to admit that I don't know what the answer is...

 

[jangb2000]

I can totally sympathise with the OP... I personally think that the whole qualification/training structure is a total mess ! It's very difficult to understand progression with multiple routes and options... and even asking the many learned members of this esteemed forum gives multiple and contradictory advice. On top of that, it also depends on where you live... as not all colleges offer the full range of courses in FT/Day release/evening options.

Also, should a 16 yo school leaver that has never even picked up a screwdriver in their life be treated the same as someone who's 50 yo with an engineering degree and 30 years of technical and practical experience ?

Having shouted about the problem... I have to admit that I don't know what the answer is...

Yeah I mean I have even more questions than I had before going on this forum, however hopefully I can finish this course and still get something out of it. I'm going to ask a lot of questions when I come to do the practical part of the course to try get a bit of clarification
[automerge]1580727149[/automerge]

Hi if you have passed the 2392, 2393, & 2382 18th regs, you can register to be a domestic installer under one of the
Hi if you pass 2392,2382& now 2393 building regs taken over from part P for electrica,if you have the confidence you can then register for a domestic installer, & test your own work, i have heard that nappitt now requires a level 3 to register for testing roles.

So I will be able to work as a domestic installer after this foundation course? That is good enough for me. I can then continue on and do a further course if possible to get fully qualified?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Lots of information from John Ward on U-tube will give you a good grounding into what is required, this link is just one of his very informative contributions:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odnUIWyC0oU

 

[Lister1987]

There's a nice amount of infp in the trainee section here too, drop Dan a PM and get access

 

[Mikeg1]

New Trades Career

I 30 and in the process of doing the Full Scope Electricians course inc solar PV through the same provider and cannot fault them, Definitely do level 2/3 and 2391 like others have stated as will prosper in the long run

 

[BrianM]

Slightly hijacking but I'm female. I have the 3rd year diploma and 15 years in electrical systems design. Couldn't get an apprenticeship 15 years ago. Have to pay to have my work checked over and signed off. Trying again to get the qualifications. No one seems able to cope with me not being a bloke... any advice? Should I get a fake beard?

 

[davesparks]

Also, should a 16 yo school leaver that has never even picked up a screwdriver in their life be treated the same as someone who's 50 yo with an engineering degree and 30 years of technical and practical experience ?

No they shouldn't be treated the same, the 16yo school leaver is not coming into it convinced that they already know what they are doing.
Someone with an engineering degree and 30 years experience of electrical engineering work is likely going to take a lot longer to learn the practical/real world side of the job as they will be starting with an attitude that they already know what they are doing.

 

[Vortigern]

Should I get a fake beard

Well Brian, a bit of a conundrum. I suppose you have a male name, so suggest you get a real beard, it would be more convincing, joking aside, from what you say, can I ask, have you tried enrolling with a CPS such as NIC or Napit? You may not be very far off what is required to sign off your own work. As to feeling as a female it is harder to get in the trade, can I point you to NICEIC and their initiative to get more female electricians. They offer funding to assist in courses/equipment. I have had two female trainees who sadly did not last long. But then they were probably younger than you? I found that bottom line they did not have the physical strength to do certain tasks. I also found that about 2 p.m. they had run out of energy and could not complete a days work. Maybe that is something that could be built up in time but they felt discouraged (not by me!) Having said that, I am absolutely all for female electricians.

 

[BrianM]

Well Brian, a bit of a conundrum. I suppose you have a male name, so suggest you get a real beard, it would be more convincing, joking aside, from what you say, can I ask, have you tried enrolling with a CPS such as NIC or Napit? You may not be very far off what is required to sign off your own work. As to feeling as a female it is harder to get in the trade, can I point you to NICEIC and their initiative to get more female electricians. They offer funding to assist in courses/equipment. I have had two female trainees who sadly did not last long. But then they were probably younger than you? I found that bottom line they did not have the physical strength to do certain tasks. I also found that about 2 p.m. they had run out of energy and could not complete a days work. Maybe that is something that could be built up in time but they felt discouraged (not by me!) Having said that, I am absolutely all for female electricians.

Ah I was watching a documentary about Queen when I signed up. Hence the nod to Mr May.

Yeah physical strength is definitely a thing. It depends on the individual really. I do TES for festival stages so carrying scaffolding, trussing, lights, amps and speakers, hoists... box pushing and rigging have made me pretty strong but it does take time. Even I struggle with wall chasers on occasion.

I'm definitely not far off but I also don't know enough about domestic work to be confident in just going for it and getting a CPS in to evaluate.

I should probably answer the OP and say that I think no matter what the more training you have the better. It all adds to the CV.

I'll stop hijacking now ?